Top 2 pair on draw heavy board ($50nl)

[myke11]

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $50.20
Hero (BB): $50.00
UTG: $49.15
MP: $51.55
CO: $44.25
BTN: $50.75

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, BTN folds, SB calls $0.25, Hero checks

Flop: ($2.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $2.50</font>, UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $8.00</font>, 2 folds
Hero...?

Villian is 21/17/4 over 250hands (i have him as a 2buyin winner over that time period). Im not sure how to play this flop... I tend to lead towards a 3bet, perhaps to $16, but i dont know if thats bad.
Who just calls and why?

If you just call what do you do on a safe turn? Are you trying to get the $$ in or lose the minimum?

If you 3bet, do you have to call if he 4 shoves getting 3-1?

[Reef]

sometimes I raise pf big there , check is ok

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I typically 3 bet big on flop

[myke11]

so if you 3 bet i assume youre calling the shove, what size 3 bet do you like?

[rakemenot]

I just call MPs raise. A low turncard i I´ll make my move, a potbet. Those hands are always har to play without read or recognizing the opponent.

[Reef]

I prob make it like $28-$30 and instacall a push

[myke11]

so you donk the turn for a pot sized bet?.... if he shoves over you do you call?

[Reef]

that's fine once in awhile .. but on this board just SO many turn cards suck. If it's a reg that I play with a TON , maybe once in awhile I'll just call the raise and get it in on a safe turn card as more of a deception type play.

[myke11]

wow $28-$30 is a huge 3bet, are you just doing that as opposed to like 16 or 18 to commit yourself?

[rakemenot]

Everyone seems to like the line of 3-bet. Why not just flat call?

[Reef]

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wow $28-$30 is a huge 3bet, are you just doing that as opposed to like 16 or 18 to commit yourself?

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hate a 3bet of $16-18 .. draws still have odds to call and stack sizes are akward if a bad turn card comes.