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Old 08-28-2007, 08:43 PM
Fat Nicky Fat Nicky is offline
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Default 2 questionable river checks, oop.

pretty sure I have the best hand in both spots, but are worse hands calling the river?


villain is 27/14/5 over 200 hands.

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No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$1/$2 Blinds
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SB: $242.25
BB: $429.75
Hero (UTG): $222.00
CO: $164.80
BTN: $200.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, CO calls $7.00, 3 folds

Flop: ($17) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $12.00</font>, CO calls $12.00

Turn: ($41) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $32.00</font>, CO calls $32.00

River: ($105) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks

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Villain is 30/7/3 over 500 hands. fold bb to steal is 75 and fold cbet is 50.

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Hero (SB): $200.00
BB: $331.95
UTG: $420.15
BTN: $149.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6.00</font>, BB calls $4.00

Flop: ($12) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $9.00</font>, BB calls $9.00

Turn: ($30) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $20.00</font>, BB calls $20.00

River: ($70) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks
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Old 08-28-2007, 08:45 PM
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Default Re: 2 questionable river checks, oop.

Really don't like either
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Old 08-28-2007, 08:47 PM
Phoenix1010 Phoenix1010 is offline
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Default Re: 2 questionable river checks, oop.

Checking or betting are fine in both.
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Old 08-28-2007, 08:47 PM
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Default Re: 2 questionable river checks, oop.

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Checking or betting are fine in both.

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i think it goes check check and we win both way too often to be checking here.
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Old 08-28-2007, 08:51 PM
Fat Nicky Fat Nicky is offline
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Default Re: 2 questionable river checks, oop.

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Checking or betting are fine in both.

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i think it goes check check and we win both way too often to be checking here.

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i just couldn't figure out many hands that could call 3-barrels on those boards. they both called when a scare card hit on the turn, so I narrowed their ranges down to mainly draws and some weakish pairs. they prob check behind their pairs, but maybe they'll bet their missed draws.
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Old 08-28-2007, 10:34 PM
Fistdantilus Fistdantilus is offline
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Default Re: 2 questionable river checks, oop.

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i just couldn't figure out many hands that could call 3-barrels on those boards. they both called when a scare card hit on the turn, so I narrowed their ranges down to mainly draws and some weakish pairs. they prob check behind their pairs, but maybe they'll bet their missed draws.

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I think there's a greater probability that they call with their mediocre pairs than bet missed draws. Especially hand 1.
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Old 08-28-2007, 10:35 PM
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Default Re: 2 questionable river checks, oop.

You have the nuts in both hands, so my advice is trivial.
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