NL 50 flops top two

[xeanatic]

Villian is unknown, is this a standard stack off?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $40.75
Hero (BB): $50.00
UTG: $36.45
MP: $30.10
CO: $29.25
BTN: $47.30

Preflop: Hero is dealt 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, 3 folds, SB calls $0.25, Hero checks

Flop: ($1.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1.50</font>, UTG folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $3.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $11.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $19.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $49.50</font>, SB calls all-in for $21.25
Uncalled bet of $9.25 returned to Hero

[toddxlogan]

I hate stacking off with 2pair in unraised pots, but I think this one looks A-ok to me.

Maybe by and large because his check-minraise, min-4-bet just looks so god damn stupid that it draws out the ire in me. But this really looks like an uber-donk with a draw to me. Would a monster hand check-minraise this flop that looks INCREDIBLY drawy? I think not.

I stack off here.

[Craggoo]

This is almost always 77 or 88 here fyi. And the cliche that its dumb to go broke in an unraised pot (with anything other than a set) holds true here.

[Harry Fong]

I'm ok with it. The only thing that beats you is a set, everything else is drawing. IMO you will take this down more times than not.

[Lego05]

Nah I'm getting it all-in and being happy with it. There's only 1 combo of 88 so the only hand I'm really worried about is 77.

PokerStoving to come.

[toddxlogan]

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This is almost always 77 or 88 here fyi. And the cliche that its dumb to go broke in an unraised pot (with anything other than a set) holds true here.

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Did you see how Villain played his hand? Seriously, a check-minraise in a tiny unraised pot on a board thats about as drawy as they come, and you think that this is always the 3 combos of 77 or 1 combo of 88 and not the 40/50+ combos of straight or flush draws from an uberdonk who does things like check-double minraise?

I think you are way off here...

[Lego05]

Even if the villian only has sets/2pairs:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

8,910 games 0.015 secs 594,000 games/sec

Board: 8s Qh 7s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.269% 39.12% 11.14% 3486 993.00 { Qs8d }
Hand 1: 49.731% 38.59% 11.14% 3438 993.00 { 8c8h, 7c7d, 7c7h, 7d7h, Qd7d, Qd8c, Qd8h, Qs8c, Qs8h, Qd7c, Qd7h, Qs7c, Qs7d, Qs7h }





Add some combo draws (same thing really):

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

11,880 games 0.016 secs 742,500 games/sec

Board: 8s Qh 7s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.884% 42.53% 08.36% 5052 993.00 { Qs8d }
Hand 1: 49.116% 40.76% 08.36% 4842 993.00 { 8c8h, 7c7d, 7c7h, 7d7h, Qd7d, Ts9s, 9s6s, 6s5s, Qd8c, Qd8h, Qs8c, Qs8h, Qd7c, Qd7h, Qs7c, Qs7d, Qs7h }




Now add some TP hands:


ext results appended to pokerstove.txt

19,800 games 0.016 secs 1,237,500 games/sec

Board: 8s Qh 7s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 64.273% 59.16% 05.12% 11713 1013.00 { Qs8d }
Hand 1: 35.727% 30.61% 05.12% 6061 1013.00 { 8c8h, 7c7d, 7c7h, 7d7h, KdQd, KsQs, QdJd, QsJs, Qd7d, Ts9s, 9s6s, 6s5s, KcQd, KcQs, KdQs, KhQd, KhQs, KsQd, QdJc, QdJh, QdJs, QsJc, QsJd, QsJh, Qd8c, Qd8h, Qs8c, Qs8h, Qd7c, Qd7h, Qs7c, Qs7d, Qs7h }





I don't know why you wouldn't want to felt this. Villian's minbetting/tiny betting does raise an eyebrow and causes a little worry, but not nearly enough to prevent me from getting it all-in and feeling pretty good.

[fxwz]

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This is almost always 77 or 88 here fyi.

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I agree with this statement. I don't play on Pokerstars, but on 50NL at Everest Poker this is almost always a set.

[cjp010]

He could also have 9Ts or 78 or even Q7 from the SB. Easy stack off here.

[Lego05]

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He could also have 9Ts or 78 or even Q7 from the SB. Easy stack off here.

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Ha...for some reason I forgot to include 87. The situation is even better.