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Old 05-17-2007, 11:48 AM
Kyle Flynn Kyle Flynn is offline
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Default bb flop straight, on a 3 card flush board. multiway pot.

Its pretty much mandatory to call the preflop raise, because of pot odds. Once you get to the flop, how do you proceed?

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No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t25/t50
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1325
UTG+1: t1110
MP1: t75
MP2: t1120
MP3: t990
CO: t2085
Button: t1620
SB: t2490
Hero: t2675

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls t50 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t75)</font>, UTG+1 calls t50 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t125)</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises all-in t75</font>, MP2 calls t75 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t250)</font>, MP3 calls t75 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t325)</font>, 2 folds, SB calls t50 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t400)</font>, Hero calls t25 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t450)</font>, UTG calls t25 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t475)</font>, UTG+1 calls t25 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t500)</font>.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t525, 6 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: t525)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero ??</font>
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Old 05-17-2007, 11:55 AM
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Default Re: bb flop straight, on a 3 card flush board. multiway pot.

tough spot with so many players. i would bet to find out where you stand, maybe 400.
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Old 05-17-2007, 12:01 PM
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Default Re: bb flop straight, on a 3 card flush board. multiway pot.

Bet ~400, if pushed against, call.
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Old 05-17-2007, 01:17 PM
Kyle Flynn Kyle Flynn is offline
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Default Re: bb flop straight, on a 3 card flush board. multiway pot.

So, checking here is out of the option? If I am planning on betting ~400 and willing to call a push, wouldn't check raising be a better play? Or is that giving up too much of an opportunity for a free turn card (possibly a diamond)?
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Old 05-17-2007, 01:30 PM
Cornell Fiji Cornell Fiji is offline
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Default Re: bb flop straight, on a 3 card flush board. multiway pot.

bet 400 --&gt; call a shove

if called on the flop you should shove any non diamond turn
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Old 05-17-2007, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: bb flop straight, on a 3 card flush board. multiway pot.

Thanks for your input. I pretty much played it the way everyone suggested... except I bet less on the flop. Here is the result:

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t25/t50
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1325
UTG+1: t1110
MP1: t75
MP2: t1120
MP3: t990
CO: t2085
Button: t1620
SB: t2490
Hero: t2675

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls t50 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t75)</font>, UTG+1 calls t50 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t125)</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises all-in t75</font>, MP2 calls t75 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t250)</font>, MP3 calls t75 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t325)</font>, 2 folds, SB calls t50 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t400)</font>, Hero calls t25 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t450)</font>, UTG calls t25 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t475)</font>, UTG+1 calls t25 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t500)</font>.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t525, 6 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: t525)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t250</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises all-in t1045</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls t795 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1820)</font>.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t2615, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t525, Sidepot 1: t2090)


River: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t2615, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t525, Sidepot 1: t2090)


Results:
Final pot: t2615
<font color="#ffffff">Hero showed 5c 3c</font>
<font color="#ffffff">MP1 showed 7h 7c</font>
<font color="#ffffff">MP2 showed Jd 9d</font>
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Old 05-17-2007, 02:31 PM
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Default Re: bb flop straight, on a 3 card flush board. multiway pot.

Your bet on the flop is really really really really really bad, as you give any diamond reasonably good odds to call (and they will). The call is fine on the flop, don't let it bother you that he had the flush.
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