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Old 10-31-2006, 05:48 PM
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Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $259.50
UTG+1: $110.75
CO: $98.50
Button: $102.50
Hero: $215
BB: $43.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $4.5</font>, CO folds, Button calls, Hero calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($19, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $16</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, Button folds.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($51, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $33</font>, Hero calls.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($117, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 is all-in $57.25</font>, Hero folds.




no reads, had TAG numbers over less than 100 hands.
interested in the turn the most.
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Old 10-31-2006, 05:58 PM
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Default Re: bottom set, oop monotone board

Fold preflop. You are oop with a marginal hand and likely don't have the best implied odds.

Flop looks ok, but I would pot it. I would probably fold turn as A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] just hit his nut flush. What are you putting him on when you call the turn?
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Old 10-31-2006, 05:58 PM
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Fold preflop.

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i'm never folding any pocket pair here 200bb's deep. ever.
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Old 10-31-2006, 06:00 PM
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Default Re: bottom set, oop monotone board

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Fold preflop. You are oop with a marginal hand and likely don't have the best implied odds.

Flop looks ok, but I would pot it. I would probably fold turn as A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] just hit his nut flush. What are you putting him on when you call the turn?

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He's looking for the board to pair and stack him.
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Old 10-31-2006, 06:02 PM
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Fold preflop. You are oop with a marginal hand and likely don't have the best implied odds.

Flop looks ok, but I would pot it. I would probably fold turn as A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] just hit his nut flush. What are you putting him on when you call the turn?

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He's looking for the board to pair and stack him.

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I understand, I did not see that when I made my first response.
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Old 10-31-2006, 06:02 PM
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What are you putting him on when you call the turn?

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Hopefully the Ah
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Old 10-31-2006, 06:06 PM
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What are you putting him on when you call the turn?

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Hopefully the Ah

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Right, but you've spent 25% of your stack on this hand and now you're chasing a full house.
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Old 10-31-2006, 06:08 PM
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Default Re: bottom set, oop monotone board

arent my implied odds huge on the turn?

whats the math on this?
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Old 10-31-2006, 06:12 PM
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Default Re: bottom set, oop monotone board

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arent my implied odds huge on the turn?

whats the math on this?

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10 outs to boat up by the river, so you need like 3.6:1 or something and we're getting 2.5:1 immediate + a good chunk of implied. I call the turn.

edit: 11 outs ... i no count good
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Old 10-31-2006, 06:13 PM
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What are you putting him on when you call the turn?

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Hopefully the Ah

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Right, but you've spent 25% of your stack on this hand and now you're chasing a full house.

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+EV is +EV, regardless of what % of our stack we have to "spend"
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