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Old 06-15-2007, 03:37 PM
Acevader Acevader is offline
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Default King high river decision (NL$1000)

Villain is 29/14/1.7 (50) so fairly meaningless stats.

I'm so short because I buy in for $400 and play till its gone. It's part of a planning and managed short-stack system I'm using to try and build a bankroll at a quicker rate than grinding.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $5/$10 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $1,074.80
BB: $615.00
UTG: $359.75
MP: $1,182.00
CO: $1,828.60
Hero (BTN): $211.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $35.00</font>, SB folds, BB calls $25.00

Flop: ($75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $65.00</font>, BB calls $65.00

Turn: ($205) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($205) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $205.00</font>

Hero?
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Old 06-15-2007, 04:25 PM
yskhyr yskhyr is offline
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Default Re: King high river decision (NL$1000)

You wanna call with king high?

Other than that I dont think a shortstack system is good for building bankroll, you will have a ton of variance with all the preflop allins you can't avoid.
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Old 06-15-2007, 04:26 PM
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Default Re: King high river decision (NL$1000)

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I'm so short because I buy in for $400 and play till its gone.

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This is not a good strategy [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Fold the hand obv.
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Old 06-15-2007, 04:34 PM
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Default Re: King high river decision (NL$1000)

i like it
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Old 06-15-2007, 04:36 PM
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Default Re: King high river decision (NL$1000)

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Fold the hand obv.

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what do you put him on?
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Old 06-15-2007, 05:11 PM
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Default Re: King high river decision (NL$1000)

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what do you put him on?

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Agree, those suggesting fold what is his range in your opinion?

Point taken re: short stacked play, Ed Holis has had zero success afterall [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 06-15-2007, 07:21 PM
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Default Re: King high river decision (NL$1000)

Update

I called and lost to Ad,xd which was the hand I figured to be most likely. That was a specific read/fear but my estimations of his range were far wider which is why I called.

As PFR'er that ace has a reasonable probability of having hit me. If he was calling with a piece of the board or PP on the flop then he is turning a hand with some SD value into a pure bluff. I find it doubtful he ever bets one pair here like this and I don't think he calls the flop with a naked ace. He may have played 99 in this manner but I think he plays missed flushes and a number of other non-paired hands in this manner. I think he makes this bluff around 1/3rd of the time given the way the hand has been played and 2/3rds the time I expect to see 99, A4, A2, Adxd.

Agree/disagree?
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Old 06-15-2007, 08:13 PM
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Default Re: King high river decision (NL$1000)

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i like it

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hero has put in 50% of his stack. do you expect weakish regs to be bluffing shortstacks? i think the call is terrrrrible and im like the king of spewy river high card calls.
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Old 06-15-2007, 08:29 PM
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Fold the hand obv.

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what do you put him on?

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Itīs not like the ace is the greatest of bluffcards for villain and therefore I think he is valuebetting here almost always.
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Old 06-15-2007, 09:08 PM
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Default Re: King high river decision (NL$1000)

even tho I think hes repping a pretty thin range, i think it's the range that beats K high
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