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Old 07-11-2007, 03:19 AM
Eskaborr Eskaborr is offline
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Default 1/2 nl 6 max turn play

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($74.65)
BB ($48.55)
Hero ($200.10)
MP ($147.75)
CO ($112)
Button ($213.30)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, MP calls $8, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: ($19) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, MP calls $12.

Turn: ($43) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $48</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $180.1</font>, MP calls $79.75 (All-In).

River: ($350.85) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $350.85
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Old 07-11-2007, 06:48 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 nl 6 max turn play

No reads on villian. I was thinking it was a board many people float on and that after jamming he'd be hard pressed to call with anything marginal. Also his overbet didn't seem like a monster and I have equity when I get called by a set or a straight.
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Old 07-11-2007, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 nl 6 max turn play

I b/f the turn
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Old 07-11-2007, 07:16 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 nl 6 max turn play

I wouldn't assume villain is floating if you have no reads unless you have a LAG image especially because:

1) you raised UTG - which some players interpret as bigger hands (read: overpairs).

2) Given one, he still bet full pot, essentially commiting himself to the pot if he had any sort of hand

In the heat of the moment, I prob call the turn bet as you backed into a nice combo draw. If you stack him if you hit most of the time its prob about neutral EV.
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Old 07-11-2007, 07:23 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 nl 6 max turn play

Normally this is "nh", but with his shortstack and his overbet, he's never folding and you're never ahead.

So just c/f. Sucks, but that's how it goes sometimes.

And betting turn sucks because you're never ever getting called by worse.
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Old 07-11-2007, 07:24 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 nl 6 max turn play

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Normally this is "nh", but with his shortstack and his overbet, he's never folding and you're never ahead.

So just c/f. Sucks, but that's how it goes sometimes.

And betting turn sucks because you're never ever getting called by worse.

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we like it if he is fullstacked and without an overbet? The overbet made me more inclined to do it, guess I play bad.
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Old 07-11-2007, 07:25 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 nl 6 max turn play

you guys made up now?
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Old 07-11-2007, 07:26 PM
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you guys made up now?

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lolololol
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Old 07-11-2007, 07:30 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 nl 6 max turn play

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I b/f the turn

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Why? We don't have A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] here, we have a huge [censored] draw when we are behind. B/f is terrible imo.
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Old 07-11-2007, 07:30 PM
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I b/f the turn

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This seems really bad. Villian only has ~60 BB to start the hand so we are def priced in to call a shove we bet.

I suck in spots like this too, so I dunno what the best line is here. With villian's stack size, I think we can only b/c or crai (I guess we can c/c if he bets an obsurdly small amount). Any merit to c/c vs a villian who starts the hand with 200BB?
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