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No reads on villain. 3-bet me once before and I folded. Not sure why I opted for a call here, I probably should have folded pre.
PokerStars Game #9690797303: Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/04/30 - 22:45:49 (ET) Table 'Albiorix III' 6-max Seat #6 is the button Seat 1: datrip1 ($716 in chips) Seat 3: rembones ($194.15 in chips) Seat 4: rolonrolon ($749.40 in chips) Seat 5: DanielGChan ($624.70 in chips) Seat 6: Jill_Brown ($591 in chips) datrip1: posts small blind $3 rembones: posts big blind $6 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to rolonrolon [Ks Qh] rolonrolon: raises $15 to $21 JMD13 has returned DanielGChan: raises $33 to $54 Jill_Brown: folds datrip1: folds rembones: folds rolonrolon: calls $33 *** FLOP *** [9d Qc 5h] rolonrolon: bets $80 DanielGChan: raises $80 to $160 rolonrolon: calls $80 *** TURN *** [9d Qc 5h] [5s] rolonrolon: checks DanielGChan: checks *** RIVER *** [9d Qc 5h 5s] [Ad] rolonrolon: checks DanielGChan: bets $410 rolonrolon: folds DanielGChan collected $435 from pot DanielGChan: doesn't show hand *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $437 | Rake $2 Board [9d Qc 5h 5s Ad] Seat 1: datrip1 (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 3: rembones (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 4: rolonrolon folded on the River Seat 5: DanielGChan collected ($435) Seat 6: Jill_Brown (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) |
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Fold preflop. Hate hate hate flop lead, c/c and see a turn.
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id opt for a fold pre. the weird minraise from him makes me even more uncomfortable postflop.
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Flop lead is horrible. Your calls may be ok or at least not as bad, since he is giving you reasonable odds, but preflop is certainly questionable.
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fold preflop, don't lead flop.
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I check call flop oop probably. Against some opponents pre is fine, othertimes its an easy fold.
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Fold preflop. Hate hate hate flop lead, c/c and see a turn. [/ QUOTE ] Agree 100% with your statement. But assuming he calls preflop and takes your suggested line on the flop and a blank falls on the turn as it did, do you lead turn? Attempt to check-raise turn? Check/call turn? Check-fold turn? I figure I am either way ahead or way behind on this rainbow board. The only possible drawing hand is JT. If I am ahead he has 2-3 outs. If I am behind, I have 0-5 outs. Out of position, do you try to keep the pot small here and risk giving a free card if the turn goes check-check? Or do you "value bet" the turn? Do you fold if he raises your turn "value bet"? If the turn goes check-check, do you have to check-call any reasonable bet on the river (ie induce a bluff)? Surely you don't donk bet the river after a check-check turn with a hand that only gets called when its beat. |
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What are the reasons for not leading on the flop?
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What are the reasons for not leading on the flop? [/ QUOTE ] Personally, I hate defining my hand out of position on a dry flop against a preflop raiser (who has position on me). I am telegraphing that I have a Q. It's hard enough to play profitably out of position when your hand is disguised. |
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What are the reasons for not leading on the flop? [/ QUOTE ] 1) We build a big pot with a hand we don't like to go broke with. 2) We let him get away cheap with hands we beat that he would otherwise c-bet. 3) Whatever villain chooses to do, it gives us very little information about his hand. 4) We have no idea what to do if he raises us. |
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