Million, broadway on monotone flop

LearnedfromTV · #1 08-05-2007, 05:04 PM

Unknown villain, not even stats.

I figure that since I have to pay off a big river bet (do I?), I might as well shove now. Just called flop raise to see safe turn.

One thing I worry about with this line is K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] type stuff checking behind turn.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button (t11175)
Hero (t9275)
BB (t9525)
UTG (t10650)
UTG+1 (t10475)
MP1 (t10750)
MP2 (t8800)
MP3 (t10950)
CO (t8650)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
4 folds, MP3 calls t100, 1 fold, Button calls t100, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t400) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets t300, BB folds, MP3 raises to t1500, Button folds, Hero calls t1200.

Turn: (t3400) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets t2300, Hero raises to t7675,

Mr.WeakTight · #2 08-05-2007, 05:09 PM

odds are that he did not flop a flush. he probably has something like TJ with one of them a diamond. if he did flop a flush then gg you if you push now and a diamond comes. of course if he folds, you don't need to worry about a diamond on the river. but you already don't think he's folding. so why not call now and see if another diamond comes on the river? if it does, you can get away from the hand and you've still got chips.

gobboboy · #3 08-05-2007, 05:11 PM

Fold the turn.

luckychewy · #4 08-05-2007, 05:12 PM

i prob just put it in on the flop cause it looks more like u have a draw to some guys, and if they decided to raise w/ aj or at i think they'll be more inclined to call as opposed to call flop c/r ai turn. i also think ur def ahead of his range and a scare card might roll off and kill ur action on the turn, or like you said he may check behind the turn w/ 9 outs.

luckychewy · #5 08-05-2007, 05:12 PM

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Fold the turn.

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in the MILLION? i doubt this is correct.

ZJ123 · #6 08-05-2007, 05:21 PM

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Fold the turn.

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meh, i think folding here is pretty weak, i play it as hero did.

gobboboy · #7 08-05-2007, 05:25 PM

I almost said to fold the flop but thought I'd get fought a lot over that. He has a flush here almost always. If he doesn't he has KQ or limped AA/KK.

sinderg · #8 08-05-2007, 08:31 PM

standard stack off i think.

btw i really like the way you played it, not being results oriented.

think you see pair with the jack of dimonds most of the time.

jgunnip · #9 08-08-2007, 04:20 PM

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I almost said to fold the flop but thought I'd get fought a lot over that. He has a flush here almost always. If he doesn't he has KQ or limped AA/KK.

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Gobbo, what exactly about his flop raise gives villan's hand away? the over pot sized raise? Thats some pretty sick soul reading on an unknown.

TwistedEcho · #10 08-08-2007, 04:31 PM

I just try to get allin on the flop