L5cd: str8 flush draws

[Frond]

How do you guys like to play these hands? Raise, call raises? Not play oske of them at all? Examples:

x2356s str8 flush with a gut -12 outs
x2345s - 15 outs

[Big Limpin]

i think anything gut/sf and better is a cause for celebration. its so rare, so treat yourself to a FUN hand.

i would call a raise to see the draw, for sure, especially if you can get it multihanded. maybe HU even if i was acting last post-draw.

to raise pre...maybe only to steal blinds (like from the button or SB). i'd think the extra showdown equity of S+F would make me less inclined to semi-bluff this hand. i'd just limp it in i guess

[Al Mirpuri]

Notoriously, unless you are in the blinds in the modern limit draw game draws are just not playable. Two of the few draws that would be sound are the straight flush and gut straightflush draw. Do not ruin them by raising unless you are at the end of a line of limpers otherwise just limp.

[Murakawa]

I play em agressively.

[List]

Playing them passively is sort of silly if you can buy some fold equity. Obviously in a game where everyone's limping and calling post draw there's no point in raising.

[Big Limpin]

no, you have to play them passive - you want the pot as multihanded as possible. you'll still miss most of the time even with 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
if they are limpin and calling raises, then we might want to value raise predraw if several limps. otherwise, i think this is just a draw that you'll be playing as cheap as possible.

[kurto]

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no, you have to play them passive - you want the pot as multihanded as possible. you'll still miss most of the time even with 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
if they are limpin and calling raises, then we might want to value raise predraw if several limps. otherwise, i think this is just a draw that you'll be playing as cheap as possible.

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If there's already 3+ other players in the hand you should raise.