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400NL Difficult flop and turn decision, comments please
Villain is pretty unknown 25/22 over a small sample. He is obviously isolating the fish. Both other villain are very weak and loose therefore the coldcall preflop and flop lead.
Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players LegoPoker Hand History Converter MP: $246 CO: $498.50 BTN: $678 Hero (SB): $418.40 BB: $124 UTG: $548.60 Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB) UTG folds, MP calls $4, <font color="red">CO raises to $18</font>, BTN folds, Hero calls $16, BB calls $14, MP calls $14 Flop: ($72) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $49</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $155</font>, Hero calls $106 Turn: ($382) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $325.50 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $245.40 and is All-In |
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Re: 400NL Difficult flop and turn decision, comments please
Don't post results.
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Re: 400NL Difficult flop and turn decision, comments please
As played on flop, turn is obv an instacall....i strongly dislike the flop flat tho
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Re: 400NL Difficult flop and turn decision, comments please
You think CO is isolating the fish. The answer isnt to call OOP from the SB, and then donk the flop.
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Re: 400NL Difficult flop and turn decision, comments please
I think I can get away on the flop. Your lead into 2 donks in a 4 way pot looks very strong, but he doesn't seem to care. I don't think he ever shows up with a lesser made hand or a bluff here. Once I get to the turn though I'm not going to get away, even though it theoretically doesn't change anything.
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Re: 400NL Difficult flop and turn decision, comments please
the only hand you're beating on the flop is KJ or QJ and it's unlikely that he's raising either on this flop. I think the flop is an easy fold and I would also bet more like 55 or 60 on this flop which will make your decision even easier if he raises. Turn I guess is a call as played but I try to avoid these spots. On the turn you're just praying he has AA or KJ.
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Re: 400NL Difficult flop and turn decision, comments please
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the only hand you're beating on the flop is KJ or QJ and it's unlikely that he's raising either on this flop. I think the flop is an easy fold and I would also bet more like 55 or 60 on this flop which will make your decision even easier if he raises. Turn I guess is a call as played but I try to avoid these spots. On the turn you're just praying he has AA or KJ. [/ QUOTE ] So now we donk even larger on the flop??? WTF? Fold every hand we are ahead of; get action from those crushing us. Here CO, play perfect poker against me... I [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]poker. |
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Re: 400NL Difficult flop and turn decision, comments please
i would prb end up ck calling, ck calling, ck - vomit, prb call.
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Re: 400NL Difficult flop and turn decision, comments please
Ok. Sorry about the results, forgot to erase.
I should have folded the flop, but he had a flop aggression factor of 8 so I thought he might reraisebluff here some portion of the time. On the turn I knew I was beat when he bet but I couldnt fold. I still think I took the optimal line though by calling preflop (no reason to isolate the only decent player) and the flop lead since the shortstackers would call or push a wide range and I would have an easy decision if CO folded. |
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Re: 400NL Difficult flop and turn decision, comments please
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I still think I took the optimal line though by calling preflop (no reason to isolate the only decent player) and the flop lead since the shortstackers would call or push a wide range and I would have an easy decision if CO folded. [/ QUOTE ] If you feel CO is raising light; 3-bet PrF. If not Fold. Calling is spewage. Your OOP, and more importantly, your relative position sux too. After calling PrF; shortie is pushing a wide range, so you want to bet and drive him out? If shortie checks, at least let the CO bet worse hands. You leading out, accomplishes none of the two. |
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