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Old 08-02-2007, 09:52 PM
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Default NL 50 KQ did my blocker get me in trouble?

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Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
7 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $19.70
UTG+1: $59.40
hero: $50.75
CO: $60.95
Button: $56.60
SB: $193.10
BB: $50

Pre-flop: (7 players) hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $2</font>, CO calls, 3 folds.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($4.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">hero bets $4</font>, CO calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($12.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">hero bets $7</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $33.75</font>, hero?
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:48 PM
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Default Re: NL 50 KQ did my blocker get me in trouble?

It may have, but I'm not finding a fold here.
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Old 08-03-2007, 12:12 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 KQ did my blocker get me in trouble?

If I bet this turn I'm not folding.
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:30 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 KQ did my blocker get me in trouble?

so should i just move all in here?
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:51 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 KQ did my blocker get me in trouble?

WOW. Am I the only one that thinks you're NEVER good here?

Flop could be a standard float, but I doubt it. A ton of combo's got there including made-flop, AA trapping and the less-likely fl draw, + AK.

I don't mind this turn lead, but would hate a call for stacks here. A terribly played K,J/10 is all you're ahead of.
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Old 08-15-2007, 06:05 AM
Larude Larude is offline
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Default Re: NL 50 KQ did my blocker get me in trouble?

I think this is a bluff or a made hand, IMO almost never KJ or lower; totally read dependant. But you tell us you are readless... What is important though is: have you villain seen overraising the pot with a superb hand and how does he handle AK preflop or AA?

In the end I think it is a bluff, because a valuebet would probably bet less normally spoken; he has to bluff such a large amount, because if he bluffs less and you call he has no bluffcapacity left for the river on which you wouldn't get decent odds. It is a tough cookie though.
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Old 08-15-2007, 10:34 AM
Mike Kelley Mike Kelley is offline
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Default Re: NL 50 KQ did my blocker get me in trouble?

Got stacked by 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] last night when villain made pretty much the same play. I felt like an idiot. You should too if you called.
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Old 08-15-2007, 10:52 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 KQ did my blocker get me in trouble?

I think I'd need a very clear read to conclude that this was a bluff. Maybe a tricky regular would bluff here, but from what little I've seen of NL50 it doesn't seem to be chock full of guys who carefully value bet, mostly it is guys who go "ahAAA" and shove when they get the big hand.

Please tell me you folded.
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:16 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 KQ did my blocker get me in trouble?

what's the point of blocking? i can't ever seem to find good places to block bet. Are 3 flushed boards the best places to use them when you think they may/may not be on a draw, but you don't really know?
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