trips bad kicker vs. unknown

jba · #1 07-27-2006, 01:35 AM

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises, 3 folds, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, SB folds, Hero 3-bets, UTG caps, Hero calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero calls.

River: (11 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, intending to call

Hobbs. · #2 07-27-2006, 01:37 AM

I would play it the same.

LoaferGee · #3 07-27-2006, 01:38 AM

That flop seems like such a standard check-raise. Why'd you donk it? I'm also not sold on the turn donk. I feel like you are only going to be raised by a better hand here. Were you afraid he'd check-through the turn or river?

Nick C · #4 07-27-2006, 01:42 AM

I probably would have slowed down sooner, but I'm not used to 10/20 aggression.

In any event, in the language of 5/10 and below, it seems like you've told him pretty clearly you have a K. So I'm thinking he either has one as well or he thinks you're lying.

jba · #5 07-27-2006, 01:43 AM

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That flop seems like such a standard check-raise. Why'd you donk it? I'm also not sold on the turn donk. I feel like you are only going to be raised by a better hand here. Were you afraid he'd check-through the turn or river?

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flop I think I can bet/3bet like always. I would c/r if I thought I was only getting raised by like JJ+ or so.

turn donk is pot control.. i decided i wanted 2-3 bets to go in on the big streets - if I check turn it could easily end up one bet.

LoaferGee · #6 07-27-2006, 01:46 AM

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That flop seems like such a standard check-raise. Why'd you donk it? I'm also not sold on the turn donk. I feel like you are only going to be raised by a better hand here. Were you afraid he'd check-through the turn or river?

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flop I think I can bet/3bet like always. I would c/r if I thought I was only getting raised by like JJ+ or so.

turn donk is pot control.. i decided i wanted 2-3 bets to go in on the big streets - if I check turn it could easily end up one bet.

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Ok both of these make sense. I like how you played it, in that case.

Kwaz · #7 07-27-2006, 03:16 AM

I would have called the flop raise and c/r the turn.

allaboutmyfetti · #8 07-27-2006, 10:44 AM

i've been getting insta-donked on paired board flops so I like the flop donk as it might seem weak to ur opponents (if that makes sense).

I would probably call c/r the turn as well, but I think your line is fine.

jba · #9 07-27-2006, 11:25 AM

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I would have called the flop raise and c/r the turn.

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call down a turn 3bet?

this might be good but.. it only get's an extra .5 bet when we're ahead and seems like it lets him get away from a worse hand pretty easily -- and kill us when when we're out kicked (you may spend four bets on big streets to show down, I spend three at the most - i save .5 bet when I lose). I think the real key is -- how often does he fold to turn c/r.

not that it matters much.. but he checked through on the river with something like A7o. so wtf