$16 bubble hand - Weird call?

[doubLe a tom]

Can someone run this through an ICM? Paulus33 is a winning player and I've played with him quite a few times, so he knows I know what Im doing. Even if he knows im pushing ATC, what does his he have to have to make this call and be +ev? I think KQ is way too weak, and is pretty -ev for both of us.

I think I call with 88+, AJ+.


PokerStars Game #10188369883: Tournament #51634463, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2007/05/30 - 18:39:28 (ET)
Table '51634463 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: matkinson (1355 in chips)
Seat 4: double a tom (6245 in chips)
Seat 5: paulus33 (3800 in chips)
Seat 8: SongheJe (2100 in chips)
matkinson: posts the ante 50
double a tom: posts the ante 50
paulus33: posts the ante 50
SongheJe: posts the ante 50
double a tom: posts small blind 300
paulus33: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to double a tom [3c 4s]
paulus33 said, "very true"
SongheJe: folds
matkinson: folds
double a tom: raises 5595 to 6195 and is all-in
paulus33: calls 3150 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [2d 4h 5d]
*** TURN *** [2d 4h 5d] [2s]
matkinson said, "590 hands isn't enough to account for variance though"
paulus33 said, "gg"
*** RIVER *** [2d 4h 5d 2s] [Ks]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
double a tom: shows [3c 4s] (two pair, Fours and Deuces)
paulus33: shows [Kc Qs] (two pair, Kings and Deuces)
paulus33 collected 7700 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7700 | Rake 0
Board [2d 4h 5d 2s Ks]
Seat 1: matkinson (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: double a tom (small blind) showed [3c 4s] and lost with two pair, Fours and Deuces
Seat 5: paulus33 (big blind) showed [Kc Qs] and won (7700) with two pair, Kings and Deuces
Seat 8: SongheJe folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[Kevin8423]

Even on ATC, which you should be on, that is a terrible call.

[DevinLake]

Maybe TT+ he can call with? I'll run the numbers to see just how bad that call is assuming you're on ATC.

Edit: after running the numbers, his call is -2.3% and should be calling 88+.

[doubLe a tom]

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Maybe TT+ he can call with? I'll run the numbers to see just how bad that call is assuming you're on ATC.

Edit: after running the numbers, his call is -2.3% and should be calling 88+.

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[aSsAsSiN2007]

its just sick when donks suck out like a dyson in that way. im beat but ill call anyway , wheres the logic ? ill ask again WHERE is the logic *waves hands at "god" in frustrating manner*

[Kevin8423]

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its just sick when donks suck out like a dyson in that way. im beat but ill call anyway , wheres the logic ? ill ask again WHERE is the logic *waves hands at "god" in frustrating manner*

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Some people don't think like this, and some think KQ is the nuts.