PS - 55$ - 3 bet right or wrong?

Luisgallo · #1 08-17-2007, 04:09 PM

So far I have been playing very tight, 2 showdowns with JJ and AQ.

How is my preflop 3bet?

How is my flop bet?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero (t4175)
CO (t3990)
Button (t3180)
SB (t3855)
BB (t1600)
UTG (t3220)
UTG+1 (t2955)
MP1 (t2010)
MP2 (t2865)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP2 raises to t300, Hero raises to t900, 4 folds, MP2 calls t600.

Flop: (t1950) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets t1200, MP2 raises to t1965, Hero calls t765.

Turn: (t5880) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t5880) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t5880

Micro Donk · #2 08-17-2007, 04:18 PM

seems like incredible spew...no antes, no given reads on opponent, you still have 4 people behind you that can pick up hands, and your hand sucks against a standard raising range there.

earck · #3 08-17-2007, 04:44 PM

Is this a joke? I think that should be used in books as a prime example of how not to play a hand.

Luisgallo · #4 08-17-2007, 04:54 PM

Just to point out: I am not raising KJ because I think is a strong hand but because I thought I could overplay villain postflop.

Micro Donk · #5 08-17-2007, 04:59 PM

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seems like incredible spew...no antes, no given reads on opponent, you still have 4 people behind you that can pick up hands

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ok removed the hand comment. still applies

Stumpy · #6 08-17-2007, 05:26 PM

Your read on MP2 means a lot more than your read on you.

Some players don't notice at all how tight/loose you've been, unless you've been crazy aggressive.

Also, you're not going to see a flop here very often (and outplay him). MP2 has 2k left after calling your raise, and there's 2k in the pot.
Almost any normal player is either going to shove or fold. Even if he does call, it's difficult to outplay a guy with 1 PSB left.

I'd have to have a pretty good read to want to try this with so many players left to act, and I'd want him to have fewer or more chips.
(And more would be better than fewer.)

Stumpy

black666 · #7 08-17-2007, 05:28 PM

Well...if you decide you can take the pot away from villain, it's a good play. He just happened to hit the Q on you I guess. If you think he folds >50% of the time on the flop, it's a +EV c-bet.

The problem is the PF re-raise that started this whole mess. Like others pointed out, there is no ante in the pot which makes this play bad from a risk/reward perspective without any reads.
Once you get to the flop and villain checks, the hand plays itself.