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08-26-2007, 03:56 PM
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enduring temporary, but excruciating, pain
Inspired by bkholdem's post in ED's thread on prescription drugs.
[ QUOTE ] rapid or abrupt withdrawl from heroin and it's cousin's will not kill you (although you will proably feel like your dying or wish you were). [/ QUOTE ] Suppose you are in a circumstance such that you have a choice to endure excruciating pain for a temporary period (say, a week), but then will be free of any side effects, forever. Perhaps this circumstance is a strong physical addiction to heroin, and you have the choice to stop cold turkey. Or, a sadistic billionaire will give you a billion dollars to endure two weeks worth of torture, but you will be physically and mentally healthy when the period ends (save the memory, and any psychological effects, of enduring such pain) You have the option to self admit to a medical facility which will physically restrain you (padded arm or full body restraints, or whatever). You are aware that you will endure excruciating pain, which has been described to you as pain so unbearable, that you would prefer death. But when its over, its gone, completely. You will not be permitted to take medication, nor will you be permitted to commit suicide - once you commit to this facility, you are forcefully held until the pain ends. You are guaranteed to emerge in the same physical condition as you started, besides any specific positive consequences which you acknowledge and accept, such as the heroin addiction gone. Would you do it? Could you do it? I imagine it would be psychologically similar to a nightmare. My first instinct is to say that enduring such a torture would be a positive life experience, to strengthen our minds against pain, and very applicable to the training of soldiers. It is also interesting to suppose that suicide were permitted, and easily accessible (say, through a Kevorkian euthanasia machine, which allows you to press a button to administer a lethal drug). 
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08-26-2007, 04:09 PM
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Re: enduring temporary, but excruciating, pain
Can't excruciating pain cause legit mental problems later though? Could you guarantee that there wouldn't be any long-term effects, or is that part of the risk of the experiment?
Cause I'd like to say pretty much anyone could get through something for two weeks with a billion dollars waiting on the other end, consequence-free.
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08-26-2007, 04:14 PM
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Re: enduring temporary, but excruciating, pain
no way in hell i could do that even for a billion dollars....2 weeks of pain where i would rather die seems way too long..this question would be much mroe interesting imo if it was for a day maybe
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08-26-2007, 04:20 PM
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Re: enduring temporary, but excruciating, pain
I've always said that I'd put up with 30 minutes of anything for enough money to never have to work again, but two weeks sounds extremely brutal.
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08-26-2007, 04:31 PM
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Re: enduring temporary, but excruciating, pain
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Yeah, this is not the sort of thing most of you would want to go through. [/ QUOTE ] I havent found any trip reports or blogs yet, but: [ QUOTE ] Withdrawal symptoms continue to be the greatest obstacle in heroin detoxification treatment. Studies concur that there is no proof that one detoxification treatment is better than another. Relapses continue to occur in numerous cases around the world therefore making heroin detoxification a monster of an addiction. Statistics show that the average heroin addict will stop and start detox 10 to 25 times in their lifetime relapsing to heroin use every time [/ QUOTE ] http://www.addictionsearch.com/treat...-detox_10.html
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08-26-2007, 04:29 PM
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Re: enduring temporary, but excruciating, pain
[ QUOTE ]
My first instinct is to say that enduring such a torture would be a positive life experience, to strengthen our minds against pain, and very applicable to the training of soldiers. [/ QUOTE ] I think it's much more likely to make you hyper sensitive to pain for the rest of your life.
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08-26-2007, 04:32 PM
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Re: enduring temporary, but excruciating, pain
I know no one will agree with me, but pain is a state of mind you can get passed it "transcend it", 2 weeks is a long time, but if the price was right Id go through with it. I think there are very few things that would make me prefer death
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08-26-2007, 04:37 PM
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Re: enduring temporary, but excruciating, pain
[ QUOTE ]
I know no one will agree with me, but pain is a state of mind you can get passed it "transcend it", 2 weeks is a long time, but if the price was right Id go through with it. [/ QUOTE ] I would like to agree. [ QUOTE ] I think there are very few things that would make me prefer death [/ QUOTE ]I do think you are underestimating the type of pain I am discussing. Pain that is so great that you would gladly end your life to make it stop. And you can't.
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#10
08-26-2007, 04:41 PM
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Re: enduring temporary, but excruciating, pain
One life situation which kinda sorta runs parallel to this - I spent a night in jail when I was picked up for public drunkenness and disorderly conduct (pled not guilty to both, thats a trip report for another time, when it is finally resolved).
I was in my own cell. They took my overshirt, I had an undershirt and jeans. There was a single bright light, and a single cold, plastic mattress. I didn't sleep a wink, and it was the longest 10 hours of my life, it lasted an eternity. It seemed like a dream when it was over - its like my life spliced right around it, like you cut that part out and taped the day before to the next day and skipped over it. And there was no pain in that.
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