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Old 10-12-2007, 02:22 AM
vixticator vixticator is offline
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Default 25nl Two Pair

Opponent through 50 hands is loose, semi-aggro {40/12/2.5}. Do I need a solid read to call this river? I really don't think he has a flush given turn action.

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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BB: $23.15
UTG: $36.05
MP: $75.05
CO: $44.90
BTN: $25.70
Hero (SB): $39.95

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.15, BB checks

Flop: ($1) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $0.75</font>, BB folds, MP calls $0.75, CO folds

Turn: ($2.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $2.25</font>, MP calls $2.25

River: ($7) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.25</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $8</font>, Hero calls $4.75
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:23 AM
PJo336 PJo336 is offline
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Default Re: 25nl Two Pair not ideal river

I see absolutely nothing wrong with the play of this hand tbh
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:25 AM
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Default Re: 25nl Two Pair not ideal river

I'm raising this preflop

As played, I would rather b/f more on the river, or c/c.
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:28 AM
Dallas Dru Dallas Dru is offline
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Default Re: 25nl Two Pair not ideal river

i like the line you took..
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:34 AM
21SuicideKing21 21SuicideKing21 is offline
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Default Re: 25nl Two Pair not ideal river

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I'm raising this preflop

As played, I would rather b/f more on the river, or c/c.

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No way, your hand is def not strong enough to raise here and your SB, so if one of them calls, your OOP the whole way esp if people view the raise as trying to raise out the limper's and won't give you credit for a big hand. You played the hand fine, a little picky is that only thing I don't like is that you should've potted the flop, besides that thought it was well played IMO.
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:42 AM
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Default Re: 25nl Two Pair not ideal river

we are miles ahead of their limpng range and their limp calling range will fold to a cbet very often. this is a no brainer.
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:44 AM
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Default Re: 25nl Two Pair not ideal river

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we are miles ahead of their limpng range and their limp calling range will fold to a cbet very often. this is a no brainer.

[/ QUOTE ]Does this change if I tell you both limpers are 40%+ VPIP and so is the BB? Or, even more reason to raise?
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:48 AM
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Default Re: 25nl Two Pair not ideal river

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we are miles ahead of their limpng range and their limp calling range will fold to a cbet very often. this is a no brainer.

[/ QUOTE ]Does this change if I tell you both limpers are 40%+ VPIP and so is the BB? Or, even more reason to raise?

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depends on their pfr more than their vpip.

If they aren't raising Ak/AQ then never raise.

Limp/folding still adds to your vpip.
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Old 10-12-2007, 03:22 AM
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Default Re: 25nl Two Pair not ideal river

raising this everytime

why is playing KQ oop in a multi-way limped pot better than playing it oop in a HU raised pot?
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:26 AM
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Default Re: 25nl Two Pair not ideal river

i'm with greggg this is an easy raise pre for me
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