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Old 08-30-2007, 11:03 AM
KCrow KCrow is offline
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Default QQ on a paired board

Villain is down on my pt stats as 26/20/3 over a small sample.

I've not seen him do anything out the ordinary, his donk bet on the flop confused me. I wasn't sure whether to raise him.

I obviously I can only fold or push to this bet. What's the most +EV line to take.


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SB: $49.50
BB: $50.00
UTG: $34.50
CO: $66.65
Hero (BTN): $60.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $2.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6.50</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $4.50

Flop: ($13.75) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $8.00</font>, Hero calls $8.00

Turn: ($29.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $29.75</font>, [i]Hero.............
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:05 AM
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Default Re: QQ on a paired board

Fold.

Hes the pfr, so a King is in his range. So is a flush, and most players dont double barrell these kinda boards.
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:06 AM
Go_BroKe Go_BroKe is offline
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Default Re: QQ on a paired board

I fold this one. I don't think, he double bluffs TT,JJ here. He may donked his K or his FD on the flop, which makes it a very easy laydown.
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:50 AM
Yaboy Yaboy is offline
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Default Re: QQ on a paired board

villian's range is probably AJ suited plus, 99+. I would re-pop the flop bet to about half the pot size. this gives you the opportunity to see if your way ahead or way behind. If villain is on a draw he'll call or let go of the hand. If he shoves you know your beat, and you can let go of the hand.

I would fold to the turn bet. villain probably made his draw or hit trips
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:56 AM
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Default Re: QQ on a paired board

easy fold.

I really think his lead out on the flop screams AK. I guess some other possibilities are AA and possibly KQ. Either way, it makes it such a clear fold on the river
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Old 08-30-2007, 12:54 PM
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Default Re: QQ on a paired board

I folded on the turn and felt pretty happy about it. I did seriously consider raising the flop. I think there was a reasonable chance that the donk bet was a lower pocket pair or flush draw.

Anyone else think raising the flop is a good idea in this situation?

Forgot to mention is just calling the flop bad here?
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Old 08-30-2007, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: QQ on a paired board

The only way I would raise this flop is vs the worst poker player in history. In fact, vs a decent player, I think it's fine to fold to the flop bet, unless you are 100% committed to calling a turn bet when it doesn't complete the flush.

When a villain leads out at this flop, I can pretty easily take him off of 77-QQ. Given that, we beat nothing but a flush draw. When the turn hits, completes the flush, pairs the board, and adds a 2nd over card to our pair, its an easy fold.
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