Fold top pair?

Guy McSucker · #1 06-02-2007, 05:39 PM

Observations on villain after only about 15 hands: first hand I noticed he played at the table he cold-called my open raise with T7s, flopped a flush draw and raised, hit it on turn, I paid off. He looked up my holding (or had PAHUD or something) and taunted me about it in chat. Subsequently I've seen him raise preflop, c-bet 100% and slow down on the turn with anything less than top pair.

Ok here goes. $5/10 online.

QJo on the button. I open raise, villain in SB 3bets, we take the flop heads up.

Flop is JT7 rainbow. He bets and I call.

Turn is 3, completing rainbow. He checks, I bet, he check-raises.

Choices seem to be fold, call down, or call and fold river UI. I can't see the last one being right getting only 7-1.

How do you choose between the other two?

Guy.

kaby · #2 06-02-2007, 05:44 PM

I need a more solid read before I fold this (and even then I'd probabbly still play off :P)

TPGK in a blind battle vs a player you have played only 15 hands with is something you don't fold imho.

mvoss · #3 06-02-2007, 05:47 PM

This player seems fairly aggressive so you'll have the best hand enough to call down imo.

KDawg · #4 06-02-2007, 08:32 PM

I'm definetly calling down, but I also really want to raise the flop to get some extra bets in with what is likely to be the best hand against this guy. The board is a bit too draw heavy in the mid range for us to get that many decent turn cards to pop the turn

sharpie · #5 06-02-2007, 08:37 PM

I'm not folding. I'd also raise the flop if he's checking alot of turns UI.

TheHip41 · #6 06-02-2007, 09:22 PM

with 15 hands, whatever, don't fold top pair.

ILOVEPOKER929 · #7 06-02-2007, 10:26 PM

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with 15 hands, whatever, don't fold top pair.

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In the last 100,000 hands ive played I cant recall a time I was screwplayed on the turn and actually won with this type of hand. I'm still calling down however. Empirical evidence be damned.

DCWildcat · #8 06-02-2007, 10:26 PM

Yeah, I agree with everyone else. See showdown.

Why didn't you raise the flop?

Guy McSucker · #9 06-03-2007, 03:21 AM

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Yeah, I agree with everyone else. See showdown.

Why didn't you raise the flop?

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Thought I was most likely losing. Plus I'd temporarily forgotten about his tendency to slow down on the turn when he didn't have the goods.

Guy.

TheValue · #10 06-03-2007, 03:35 AM

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c-bet 100%

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Thought I was most likely losing.

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If you're losing with flopped top pair against an opponent who c-bets that much, you shouldn't be calling the 3-bet pre-flop.