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![]() Disciplined or spineless? All other players on flop are LAG:s and not especially good ones either Poker Room skin Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $3/$6 5 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: $244.05 CO: $101.00 Button: $1.085.20 SB: $86.25 Mcnugget: $294.00 Pre-flop: (5 players) Mcnugget is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] UTG folds, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, SB calls, Mcnugget calls <font color="aaaaaa">(6:1)</font>, CO calls. Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8SB, 4 players) SB checks, Mcnugget checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls, Mcnugget folds. Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5.5BB, 3 players) SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, 2 folds. Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to CO. Results: Final pot: 5.5BB |
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ehhh... ur getting 11:1 w/ only the sb left in to check-raise. Id go ahead and give u about 4 outs worth of equity (with the chance ur hand is best at the moment) for ur dirty Q outs, the bdfd and the 2 5s.
That all combined is enough for me to call and reevaluate on the turn. I mite just fold without the bdfd though. |
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I never fold flop here.
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Wow, you have the best hand a lot here. Folding the flop is out of the question for me. I'm fine with just check/calling (maybe check/raising if you can get it HU) and reevaluting on the turn. If you had continued, I think you should have donked the turn).
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Because I'm very unsure of this hand I would like someone to analyze what hands we are up against. It is a preflop raised pot with a very dry paired board and yet 3 players wants to continue. What is our plan if we call flop and a card over 5 comes on turn? And should we checkraise flop to get a chance that someone drops their overcards and make sure that we can trust their plays on turn if an over 5 card falls on turn?
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*gruch*
totally spineless.. I've never folded that. |
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You are maybe right.But how do we play this hand if we are not spineless?
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I c/c flop, c/c turn, reevaluate on river.
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A read on CO and SB would be great here.
My guess is CO is donking here with a 5, a PP or as a bluff. More likely a 5 or a PP. SB is likely to have either a 9, 67, 78 , overcards or a weak pair. Button almost certainly has overcards. These situations can often be tricky depending on your position, and often situtaions that look like obvious calls are actually folds. I don't think folding this flop is as crimnal as people are indicating at all. There's likely a lot of overcards out against you if you're ahead (collectivly they likely have 16-22 outs vs you), and you're likely drawing from 0-5 outs if behind. I think you're behind a reasonable percentage of the time here too. What makes this a flop call here IMO is your excellent relative position. You get to see how all the opponents act on the next street before deciding to put in a big bet. You get to see a) if CO follows through (he could be bluffing) b) How button reacts if an overcard falls c) If SB was slowplaying, he lets you know here. In multiway pots where calls can indicate a lot of strength (this board) having position on the likely turn bettor and likely slowplayer(s) is key. On the turn if CO bets, an overcard comes and he gets called, I'd fold. |
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