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Old 09-05-2007, 07:54 PM
runhot runhot is offline
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Default 16 ak pf vs 4bet early/no reads

bah. dropped back down to 16s from 60s since i blew my wad playing cash way over my head.. anyway this is from a 16.

the min raise/4 bet i dont think is ever AK, or QQ- here, so i folded.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1510)
MP3 (t1470)
Hero (t1470)
Button (t1470)
SB (t1540)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1340)
UTG+1 (t1700)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t40</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls t40, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t120</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t480</font>, MP2 folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t310
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Old 09-05-2007, 08:04 PM
marimba man marimba man is offline
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Default Re: 16 ak pf vs 4bet early/no reads

I think it is AK/QQ- sometimes, but nowhere near enough to make a shove OK and obv you aren't calling. Nice hand.
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Old 09-05-2007, 08:07 PM
sippin_criss sippin_criss is offline
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Default Re: 16 ak pf vs 4bet early/no reads

I'd just flat it the first time around, and if you do raise make it more than 120. As played fold it.
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Old 09-05-2007, 08:33 PM
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Default Re: 16 ak pf vs 4bet early/no reads

flat calling a minraise with AK is not good here. the whole table will call and i'll be playing a bloated pot with AK vs many opponents = not good. 120 is enough to get the pot down to 2 or 3 ways, while controlling pot size.

i think i played this mucho perfecto.
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Old 09-06-2007, 03:50 AM
Scotty_12 Scotty_12 is offline
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Default Re: 16 ak pf vs 4bet early/no reads

I likely play it the same way , but make it 160-200 ... and why post a hand if yo uare just going to say you think yo uplayed it perfect?
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:07 AM
taipan168 taipan168 is offline
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Default Re: 16 ak pf vs 4bet early/no reads

I agree with sippin_criss, I am flat calling preflop rather than re-raising. You very likely have postflop position here and with position I don't think playing a 3 or 4-way A or K high flop is that bad.

From the blinds I would definitely put in a big re-raise though.
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Old 09-06-2007, 04:09 AM
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Default Re: 16 ak pf vs 4bet early/no reads

it seems that you don't need my advice as you played perfectly.
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