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Old 07-26-2007, 11:27 PM
mce86 mce86 is offline
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Default Everyone Limps In..the ultimate sweetener..sort of.

Okay, well here is the case of the sweetener coming into play. Im at a table where the highest VPIP was 3%!
I get 99 in the blinds..a good hand, but with all the limpers, I dont want to be getting crazy since I'll have to hit the flop real well, and still not be out of the woods.
So, I go for the infamous "sweetener" raise that everyone hates..just in case I hit.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($163.35)
MP2 ($364.95)
MP3 ($99.25)
CO ($177.75)
Button ($41.30)
Hero ($181.55)
BB ($379.25)
UTG ($132.95)
UTG+1 ($208.30)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, BB calls $2, UTG calls $2, MP1 calls $2, MP3 calls $2, Button calls $2.

Flop: ($25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $11</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, MP1 calls $11, MP3 folds, Button folds.

Turn: ($47) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $29</font>, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: $47

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. Hero wins $47. </font>
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:42 AM
deucethree deucethree is offline
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Default Re: Everyone Limps In..the ultimate sweetener..sort of.

Flop perfect. Leave at least $5 that would have gotten called by the AcJx that called you here. Win pot. nh.
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:07 AM
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Default Re: Everyone Limps In..the ultimate sweetener..sort of.

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Okay, well here is the case of the sweetener coming into play. Im at a table where the highest VPIP was 3%!
I get 99 in the blinds..a good hand, but with all the limpers, I dont want to be getting crazy since I'll have to hit the flop real well, and still not be out of the woods.
So, I go for the infamous "sweetener" raise that everyone hates..just in case I hit. [b]UTG, as you might of guessed, reraised with obvious aces, and i had to fold. then i doctored the hand history, and here we are now!

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Old 07-27-2007, 12:33 PM
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Default Re: Everyone Limps In..the ultimate sweetener..sort of.

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Okay, well here is the case of the sweetener coming into play. Im at a table where the highest VPIP was 3%!
I get 99 in the blinds..a good hand, but with all the limpers, I dont want to be getting crazy since I'll have to hit the flop real well, and still not be out of the woods.
So, I go for the infamous "sweetener" raise that everyone hates..just in case I hit. [b]UTG, as you might of guessed, reraised with obvious aces, and i had to fold. then i doctored the hand history, and here we are now!

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Man, on this hand I wish...see, I would of called for set value, and then stacked him!!!! Damn I wish! And I would of caught the sleeper before i am too committed in the pot!
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Old 07-27-2007, 01:19 PM
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Default Re: Everyone Limps In..the ultimate sweetener..sort of.

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Okay, well here is the case of the sweetener coming into play. Im at a table where the highest VPIP was 3%!
I get 99 in the blinds..a good hand, but with all the limpers, I dont want to be getting crazy since I'll have to hit the flop real well, and still not be out of the woods.
So, I go for the infamous "sweetener" raise that everyone hates..just in case I hit.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($163.35)
MP2 ($364.95)
MP3 ($99.25)
CO ($177.75)
Button ($41.30)
Hero ($181.55)
BB ($379.25)
UTG ($132.95)
UTG+1 ($208.30)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, BB calls $2, UTG calls $2, MP1 calls $2, MP3 calls $2, Button calls $2.

Flop: ($25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $11</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, MP1 calls $11, MP3 folds, Button folds.

Turn: ($47) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $29</font>, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: $47

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. Hero wins $47. </font>

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So how long did it take for you to make up a fake hand to demonstrate this somewhat unsound strategy?
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Old 07-27-2007, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: Everyone Limps In..the ultimate sweetener..sort of.

Please post this in the small stakes cash forum and put your seatbelt on.
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:04 PM
mce86 mce86 is offline
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Default Re: Everyone Limps In..the ultimate sweetener..sort of.

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Okay, well here is the case of the sweetener coming into play. Im at a table where the highest VPIP was 3%!
I get 99 in the blinds..a good hand, but with all the limpers, I dont want to be getting crazy since I'll have to hit the flop real well, and still not be out of the woods.
So, I go for the infamous "sweetener" raise that everyone hates..just in case I hit.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($163.35)
MP2 ($364.95)
MP3 ($99.25)
CO ($177.75)
Button ($41.30)
Hero ($181.55)
BB ($379.25)
UTG ($132.95)
UTG+1 ($208.30)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, BB calls $2, UTG calls $2, MP1 calls $2, MP3 calls $2, Button calls $2.

Flop: ($25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $11</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, MP1 calls $11, MP3 folds, Button folds.

Turn: ($47) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $29</font>, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: $47

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. Hero wins $47. </font>

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So how long did it take for you to make up a fake hand to demonstrate this somewhat unsound strategy?

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Not a fake hand....10,000 hands!! No joke! Failed a at least 10 times out of 12! In earlier discussion, conditions have to be ideal, and online players are honestly better than the live ones this works for! They are always reraising my ass! Live, they dont do that. Ill do one that fails to show later today. Im not going to advocate something, have it blasted, and not try it out. Still experimenting....
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Old 07-28-2007, 10:39 PM
mce86 mce86 is offline
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Default Re: Losing sweetener!

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($87.10)
MP2 ($198.30)
MP3 ($347.65)
CO ($334.25)
Hero ($158)
SB ($198)
BB ($235.15)
UTG ($208.40)
UTG+1 ($115.40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $2, MP1 calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls $2, MP1 calls $2, CO calls $2.

Flop: ($19) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, UTG+1 calls $10, MP1 folds, CO calls $10.

Turn: ($49) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $49</font>, CO folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $49
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