Game Changes; Internet Tourney vs. Live ring

[DMP]

I do fairly well in STT SNG's (60% cash) but my live game is really off. I know that I'm doing something wrong, but I just can't put my finger on it. I'm not sure if I'm raising too much or letting hands go too early, but I don't know if there are any general playing changes you need to employ when switching over from internet tourneys to live games. I understand this is pretty vague, but I'm just looking for some general things to look for in my game.

[Slim Pickens]

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I do fairly well in STT SNG's (60% cash) ...

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Do you know how I know your post is not worth reading?

[surfinillini]

DMP...you're in for a rude awakening...MTT tourney is like night and day to live ring (NL I assume you;re talking about) but then again I don't know what level...

1/2NL or 2/5NL or 5/10NL

[nation]

I hope you're comparing internet SNGs to live SNGs. If you're comparing internet SNGs to live cash games then you have a long way to go, because strategy is radically different.

[Percula]

Live NL is all about position, image and reading.

I haven't played a STT in such a long time I am not sure I can get specific, but I love having tournament players on my table. They tend to...

1) Overvalue their hands like TP.

2) They are overly aggressive, which sets them up to be stacked.

3) They try to bluff too often and in the worst situations.

4) They tend to be easily manipulated by false betting patterns/tells, etc.

5) They tend to tilt way too easy.

6) They tend to lack the disipline to wait to exploit +EV situations and instead push marginal or negitive EV situations.

I would suggest posting hands and situations in the MSNL forum for specific suggestions and ideas to help your game. Include as much information as possible, reads, tempo of the game, stacks, key prior hands, etc.

[Slim Pickens]

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1) Overvalue their hands like TP.

2) They are overly aggressive, which sets them up to be stacked.

3) They try to bluff too often and in the worst situations.

4) They tend to be easily manipulated by false betting patterns/tells, etc.

5) They tend to tilt way too easy.

6) They tend to lack the disipline to wait to exploit +EV situations and instead push marginal or negitive EV situations.

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This is good advice, and even more true of tournament players who think they cash in 60% of their STT's. OP: Don't take your STT winrate too seriously. If it's accurate, I promise you your sample size is too small for your results to be representative of your actual skill and long-term win rate. STT's are like a drag race: You go as fast as possible over a short distance, and the most important skill is shifting gears a couple of times precicely and effectively. Cash games are more of a cross-country off-road race.

Inside joke: That means 60/100, so you might go ten or five tournaments without making the money.

[DMP]

I know my winrate is marginal at best, but I have at least improved over time. My sample size is around 225. This isn't a full-time endeavor, but I am trying to improve. This advice is exactly what i was looking for. I played at Commerce today and your advice really helped. Didn't clean up, but held my own and didn't get killed. Left about even.

Thanks Percula.