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1/2: Turned monster 180bb deep
<font color="blue"> Villian is an unknown 23/13/3 over 50 hands </font>
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (8 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> SB ($39.85) <font color="#C00000">Ryan_j37 ($360.40)</font> UTG ($208.05) <font color="#C00000">UTG+1 ($367.40)</font> MP1 ($194) MP2 ($131.60) CO ($139.10) Button ($44.45) Preflop: Ryan_j37 is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2. <font color="#CC3333">Ryan_j37 raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $8, MP1 calls $8, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>. Flop: ($26) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Ryan_j37 bets $18</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $54</font>, MP1 folds, Ryan_j37 calls $36. Turn: ($134) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Ryan_j37 checks with the plan of check raising all in Thoughts? |
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Re: 1/2: Turned monster 180bb deep
lol no way. This would be a massive massive massive overplay.
i would consider folding the flop without history. As played i'd c/c the turn, with a plan of playing pretty cautiously on the river. |
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Re: 1/2: Turned monster 180bb deep
Is it really possible to massively overplay top two nut flush draw? Serious question.
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Re: 1/2: Turned monster 180bb deep
yeah, when most of villains range is a set or a flush
Also, on the turn your flush draw is really just a 20% bonus to your equity, nothing more. It doesn't increase the strength of your hand all that much. |
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Re: 1/2: Turned monster 180bb deep
Only hands I see making this move are a set of fives or a set of nines, maybe, maybe 6/7 or 7/8 of spades. I think the Ace probably made your hand a cooler not a monster, I would c/c.
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Re: 1/2: Turned monster 180bb deep
The As being on the board greatly discounts his chances of having a flush. People dont raise their not nut draws very often at this level. At least not that I see.
I highly doubt he raises the flop with say QJss or TJss. So if hes got the flush it has to be probably 78ss or 67ss. |
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Re: 1/2: Turned monster 180bb deep
yeah, but in that case it just means he has a set or something dumb. crai the turn just seems like a good way to fold the something dumb part of his range and get instacalled by the set part of his range.
also 67 and 78 spades play this the same. |
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Re: 1/2: Turned monster 180bb deep
I Don't understand the point you're trying to make, do you think he'd fold a flush to a check raise?
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Re: 1/2: Turned monster 180bb deep
you basically turn your hand into a bluff when you c/r that hand on the turn. what hands do you think call you? you aren't trying to protect as you have the nut draw and no two pairs can hurt you. c/r is the absolute worst move here.
why not just fold the flop? |
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Re: 1/2: Turned monster 180bb deep
i think c/c the turn is by far the best option here. Even if you feel that you are committed to the hand vs this villain, i think its still better to c/c then c/c river, or c/c then donk all in on the river.
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