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Big draw on flop vs 100BB push and a call on the flop!
Basically, CO is a huge donk and he could have anything in this hand ranging from bottom pair to a set. I am happy to get it allin with him with this hand.
I am concerned about UTG. I put him on a pretty wide range including sets and flush draws, poss straight draws as well. Whats your move in this spot? Could you call? Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter) SB: $99.00 BB: $80.00 UTG: $109.10 MP: $157.00 CO: $85.35 <font color="black">Hero (BTN): $163.60</font> <font color="black">Reads: </font><font color="blue">UTG runs at 36/9/4.33 and is v.aggro post flop. Haven't seen many hands showndown CO is a HUGE donk. stats are 47/30/16. In a recenthand he called me down w/J6s on a KJ9KTr board when i had KQ and 3-bet him pre.</font> <font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players) <font color="red">UTG raises to $3.00</font>, MP folds, CO calls $3.00, Hero calls $3.00, <font color="red">SB raises to $13.00</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $10.00, CO calls $10.00, Hero calls $10.00 <font color="black">Flop:</font> ($53) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players) SB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets all-in for $96.10</font>, CO calls all-in for $72.35, |
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Re: Big draw on flop vs 100BB push and a call on the flop!
All in.
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Re: Big draw on flop vs 100BB push and a call on the flop!
Get the money in.
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Re: Big draw on flop vs 100BB push and a call on the flop!
First of all, I think it safe to say if you call SB is folding, right?
The worst possible case for you is where one of them has a set and the other has a bigger flush draw, right? In that case twodimes has you at 17.3%, and it's even a bit worse than that cause I think UTG is most likely to have the set and he has $20 more than CO donk-man. So in that case you're 5 to 1 against and it's pretty bad. In a more standard case where UTG has a set and CO has like top pair, you're all the way up to 42.5% (again actually a shade worse as UTG probably has the set). I think if you really put bottom pair in CO's range, you have to push like Imrahil says. If he were anything close to respectable, you'd probably have to drop this. |
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Re: Big draw on flop vs 100BB push and a call on the flop!
I think JJ/QQ make up a large part of UTG's range.
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Re: Big draw on flop vs 100BB push and a call on the flop!
I think you're concerned about the wrong person here. If a better flush draw is out, your equity sucks. If it's not then you're doing great here. UTG's overshove probably isn't a flush draw, but a donk calling off his whole stack at once right here often is.
But if his range is as wide as your read tells you, then it's an easy call. |
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Re: Big draw on flop vs 100BB push and a call on the flop!
gogogo! Your equity against their ranges is >50%.
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Re: Big draw on flop vs 100BB push and a call on the flop!
Well I am glad I seemed to make the right choice. I wasn't certain I did and I tanked before making the call. As I have said I wasn't really bothered by CO as he was so bad. I was sure SB was folding unless he had JQhh or TT and I could only see him 3-betting TT pre as he was a standard TAG.
It was UTG I was not sure of and when i saw their cards I nearly [censored] myself!!!!! Then I felt like beating the crap outta my new 20" monitor but I restrained myself. Anyway, thanks for comments and if anyone has any other comments please let me know. Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter) SB: $99.00 BB: $80.00 UTG: $109.10 MP: $157.00 CO: $85.35 <font color="black">Hero (BTN): $163.60</font> <font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players) <font color="red">UTG raises to $3.00</font>, MP folds, CO calls $3.00, Hero calls $3.00, <font color="red">SB raises to $13.00</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $10.00, CO calls $10.00, Hero calls $10.00 <font color="black">Flop:</font> ($53) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players) SB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets all-in for $96.10</font>, CO calls all-in for $72.35, Hero calls $96.10, SB folds <font color="black">Turn:</font> ($317.55) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players - 2 All-In) <font color="black">River:</font> ($317.55) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players - 2 All-In) Pot Size: $317.55 ($3 Rake) CO had 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Sevens) and WON (+$181.70) UTG had A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (Ace King high) and LOST (-$61.60) Hero had 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (King Ten high) and LOST (-$109.10) |
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Re: Big draw on flop vs 100BB push and a call on the flop!
[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] CO.
As a matter of fact: even if both turned their cards faceup before you had to make your decision you'd still have a call: Board: Ts 2h 7h Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 28.239% 27.24% 01.00% 246 9.00 { 9h8h } Hand 1: 39.203% 39.20% 00.00% 354 0.00 { AhJh } Hand 2: 32.558% 31.56% 01.00% 285 9.00 { 9c7d } |
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