06' USPC: DeMichelle 88 vs Jacob KQ hand

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DeMichelle said something about Jacob having "A5 again". Did Jacob show that A5 bluff where he restole from DeMichelle? Or was DeMichelle just speculating?

[Tyler Durden]

I'm surprised DeMichele didn't flatcall the raise.

[jaroot]

Me too. I forget exactly what the stacks were, but I believe Jacob was at like 2.2 or 2.3mil while DeMichelle was right at 2mil.

Jacob opens for 80k? D makes it 300k to go, Jacob pushes.
I don't mind the raise to 300k so much, but calling off your remaining 1.7ish or so seems kind of spewish. Even if he shows him KQ face up I think it's a marginal call.

Flat calling the 80k would seem like a better line. But what do I know. I couldn't have made some of the sick ass bluffs DeMichelle made in that tournament either.

That hand with Eric Crane where he re-re-stole w/ KQ? Siiiiiiiiick! Loved that one...

[Matt24]

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Even if he shows him KQ face up I think it's a marginal call.


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do you mean its in an instacall? nothing marginal about it

[jaroot]

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do you mean its in an instacall? nothing marginal about it

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Um, no I meant it was M-A-R-G-I-N-A-L... at best.

I found a recap of the hand from the boston herald archives..
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With blinds at 12,000 and 24,000, antes 4,000, there were only three players left to contend for the USPC crown. Jacob was sitting on the button with approximately 2 million chips. Looking down, he was pleased to see Kh-Qh, prompting him to raise to 75,000. Michael DeMichele, who was second in chips with just under 2 million, looked down to see his own solid hand, 8d-8c. Struggling over his decision, DeMichele finally raised to 300,000. After Jordan Morgan - the short stack at the table with less than a million chips - quickly folded from the big blind, Jacob had to make a pivotal decision.
Jacob believed that since Morgan was short-stacked, DeMichele wouldn’t call and risk being eliminated without a monster hand. With the prize money difference between second and third place close to $200,000, Jacob felt DeMichele would fold with a strong reraise.
“I’m all-in,” Jacob announced.


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So blinds at 12/24k and ~1.7mil behind.. 88 is FAR from an instacall. Not saying it was a bad call, but it just seemed like DeMichelle had an uncanny knack for picking up chips by putting pressure on his opponents so why would he want to put in a spot where he had to "call" for his tournament life.

[jaroot]

Here's the Boston Herald Link:
http://sports.bostonherald.com/other...icleid=1000946

[Matt24]

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do you mean its in an instacall? nothing marginal about it

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Um, no I meant it was M-A-R-G-I-N-A-L... at best.

I found a recap of the hand from the boston herald archives..
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With blinds at 12,000 and 24,000, antes 4,000, there were only three players left to contend for the USPC crown. Jacob was sitting on the button with approximately 2 million chips. Looking down, he was pleased to see Kh-Qh, prompting him to raise to 75,000. Michael DeMichele, who was second in chips with just under 2 million, looked down to see his own solid hand, 8d-8c. Struggling over his decision, DeMichele finally raised to 300,000. After Jordan Morgan - the short stack at the table with less than a million chips - quickly folded from the big blind, Jacob had to make a pivotal decision.
Jacob believed that since Morgan was short-stacked, DeMichele wouldn’t call and risk being eliminated without a monster hand. With the prize money difference between second and third place close to $200,000, Jacob felt DeMichele would fold with a strong reraise.
“I’m all-in,” Jacob announced.


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So blinds at 12/24k and ~1.7mil behind.. 88 is FAR from an instacall. Not saying it was a bad call, but it just seemed like DeMichelle had an uncanny knack for picking up chips by putting pressure on his opponents so why would he want to put in a spot where he had to "call" for his tournament life.

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I am talking about your example where Jacob turns his hand face up on the table and shows kQ. I am now instacalling with 88.

[Jurollo]

Why would you want to risk your tournament life as a favorite? I don't get you sometimes matt.

[stephenNUTS]

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Why would you want to risk your tournament life as a favorite? I don't get you sometimes matt.

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Jurollo,

I think what Matt is implying is that Mike does NOT know at that time he is a "favorite",(albeit only a slight one)and AT BEST he is most likely in a coinflip situatuion to two overs,but more likely a 4-1 underdog to an overpair,risking 5 days worth of hard work in a situation that he can easily pick a better spot to put his whole tourney on the line.
He chose to gamble ,and whether it was read based,he felt Alex would outplay him,being tired/late,or whatever,..........if he won the flip,he would have probably been the Champion and looked like a genius.I am sure Michael has second guessed his descision ever since IMO.

~stephen

[olivert]

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I'm surprised DeMichele didn't flatcall the raise.

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There was another thread over in the TV poker section with a long discussion on this hand. DeMichele (TStoneMBD) was involved in that discussion.

I still feel that DeMichele made a tournament tactical error by choosing to tangle with Jacobs in that spot, especially when Morgan was short-stacked.

The decision cost DeMichele at least $200K in real money, if not $600K.