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$114s Standard Pot Control or Weak?
Villains to my right and left are both clueless early game loose callers / raisers.
PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com UTG (t2100) UTG+1 (t1270) MP1 (t1410) MP2 (t1470) MP3 (t1770) Hero (t1680) Button (t1600) SB (t1480) BB (t720) Preflop: Hero is in CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, MP3 calls t20, Hero calls t20, Button calls t20, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, BB checks Flop: (t90) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players) BB checks, MP3 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets t60</font>, Button calls t60, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, MP3 calls t60 Turn: (t270) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players) <font color="red">MP3 bets t100</font>, Hero calls t100, Button calls t100 River: (t570) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players) MP3 checks, Hero checks, <font color="red">Button bets t120</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, Hero calls t120 |
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Re: $114s Standard Pot Control or Weak?
And a few hands later at the same table...
PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com Hero (t1425) UTG+1 (t2020) MP1 (t900) MP2 (t655) MP3 (t1980) CO (t2350) Button (t1365) SB (t1200) BB (t1605) Preflop: Hero is in UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="red">Hero raises to t90</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="red">MP1 raises to t900 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to t2350 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, Hero ??? |
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Re: $114s Standard Pot Control or Weak?
second hand : depending my read on CO but Its a call in lot of time
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Re: $114s Standard Pot Control or Weak?
Martin,
Good to see you here. I soemtimes play at the same table with you. Not sure if sharing my SN is a +EV move tho. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] |
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Re: $114s Standard Pot Control or Weak?
i don't play at those buy ins but the CO RRAI seems like a try to isolate the shortstack to me.
So i think that without any special read on CO i call almost all the time. Would he reraise all in with the aces ? with AA i think i would only call hoping to create some side pot. |
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Re: $114s Standard Pot Control or Weak?
Good players push AA/KK here just like they do other hands they want to play to disguise.
Hand 1 you should probably raise preflop. It solves a lot of problems I find. Hand 2 if CO's good, I'm folding. Ryan |
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Re: $114s Standard Pot Control or Weak?
first hand: against a clueless limping villain aq is an autoraise from co.
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Re: $114s Standard Pot Control or Weak?
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first hand: against a clueless limping villain aq is an autoraise from co. [/ QUOTE ] Problem is, he will call my preflop raise like 80% of time (and the stupid button also will cold call frequently enough giving not only MP3 but also the blinds nice pot odds) and I did not want to make myself too committed from the preflop of very first hand with a hand that looks sexy but vulnerable. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] |
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Re: $114s Standard Pot Control or Weak?
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Good players push AA/KK here just like they do other hands they want to play to disguise. Hand 1 you should probably raise preflop. It solves a lot of problems I find. Hand 2 if CO's good, I'm folding. Ryan [/ QUOTE ] Both arguments crossed my mind, but with no other reads on the villain I had to somewhat discount the possibiliity of AA here. Does the presence of the other smaller stack all-in influence your decision? Positive toward call or even more reason to fold? (He is obviously dumb to push here) Do you think it's fold because I do not have proper odds to call, or is it more beccause it's still very early in the game? |
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Re: $114s Standard Pot Control or Weak?
hand 1 id raise pf like 90% of the time
postflop is pretty meh, ppl are obviously a lot more likely to call a 3/4 pot bet in a limped pot than they would be if you had raised it. things get kinda sticky on the turn since you now have no idea where you are but i guess i don't hate just calling down hand 2 i think most villians are shoving ak or at least qq there so he has to be exceptionally tight for me to consider laying it down. |
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