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Bottom 2 pair on a big board
No read on the button.
Did I push this hand too hard? PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) MP2 ($48) CO ($49) Button ($48.40) SB ($53.30) Hero ($39.85) UTG ($42.10) MP1 ($50) Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $1.50. Flop: ($4.25) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $9</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $37.85</font> |
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Re: Bottom 2 pair on a big board
call 3-bet. I think I'm calling the turn unless K or T comes.
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Re: Bottom 2 pair on a big board
I don't like the push.
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Re: Bottom 2 pair on a big board
Unless he's on a flat steal, this flop is likely to connect with hands that button will raise with PF. His initial post flop bet might still be a automatic C-bet after stealing with trash but once he calls your flop raise you have to give him some credit for a hand. Call the 3-bet and re-eval on the turn.
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Re: Bottom 2 pair on a big board
Ok, let's say I called the 3-bet, rather than pushing. Do I need to see a Q or a J on the turn to invest more money in the hand?
In the actual hand, the turn was a 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. If he bets, do I fold? |
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Re: Bottom 2 pair on a big board
Fold preflop. Seriously, calling with QJo in the BB is really bad.
After his 3-bet on the flop its unlikely bottom two is good on this board, Im folding. IMO fold > call >>>> push. |
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Re: Bottom 2 pair on a big board
Is it really a bad preflop call against a button raise? I'd agree if the raise came from early position, but a typical button will raise with some very bad hands. Why not see a flop here?
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Re: Bottom 2 pair on a big board
Because it is a junk hand oop. There have been some good threads in ssnl about playing in the blinds against a steal, try a search to see if you can find any of them. Generally, if you have a playable hand in this position it is better to reraise than flat call, but folding QJ here is pretty standard.
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Re: Bottom 2 pair on a big board
yeah preflop isn't good, i would fold this unless for some reason i decided to raise.
i would just call the flop 3-bet and reevaluate on the turn. if it blanks off and he shoves i'd probably call and hope to see an overplayed ak or if you are going to fold a blank turn just fold the flop |
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Re: Bottom 2 pair on a big board
Why are you calling a PF raise OOP with QJo?
As for the flop action, Unless I know villain is an idiot who will felt TP I just call the 3bet. His range has you crushed and it looks like he wants to play for stacks. If he comes in for a decent bet on the turn I let this one go. Board: As Qd Jc Dead: equity (%) win (%) tie (%) Hand 1: 38.4184 % 37.75% 00.66% { QcJd } Hand 2: 61.5816 % 60.92% 00.66% { AA, QQ-JJ, A9o+, KTo } |
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