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Old 04-28-2006, 05:57 PM
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Default Kjo OOP in a 3 bet pot

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This is a 3-6 loose, 6-handed game. I’m UTG and raise with Kjo ( so far, I’ve been taking down pots and not getting out of line ). MP, who rarely raises, his pfr is 8, three bets. The loose button calls, everyone folds back to me and I call.
The pot is 3 handed with 10 bets in the pot. Flop is K,7,3 rainbow, I’m first to act. What do I do? Do I check and call all the way to the river. Do I lead and if raised, call and check and fold?
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Old 04-28-2006, 06:00 PM
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Default Re: Kjo OOP in a 3 bet pot

check / raise, the very loose player will call to the river and you don't want to risk having the tight players AQ check through on the turn when the loose player would have guaranteed to call a bet.

The great thing about the presence of a loose player is that it will make the tight players raises more legitimate, he knows that even if he can make you fold a better hand, he won't get the loose player to fold anything that beats him.

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Old 04-28-2006, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: Kjo OOP in a 3 bet pot

I think I go WA/WB.

TT-QQ : 18 combos
AQs : 4 combos

AA-KK : 9 combos
AK: 12 combos
KQs (maybe) : 4 combos

Pretty much 50-50 vs. his range. No big draws to protect against...
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Old 04-28-2006, 06:19 PM
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Default Re: Kjo OOP in a 3 bet pot

What do you do if villain three-bets flop? Call, fold turn UI?
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Old 04-28-2006, 06:21 PM
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Default Re: Kjo OOP in a 3 bet pot

Thanks for the analysis, but what does WA/WB mean?
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Old 04-28-2006, 06:23 PM
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Default Re: Kjo OOP in a 3 bet pot

Way ahead / way behind. I.e. if you C/R this tight player will dump his queens, jacks and tens. But will probably bet them through the turn if you just c/c. You might want to lead/call the river sometimes.

I don't know if my analysis is right given that there is a loose player on the flop as well.
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Old 04-28-2006, 06:29 PM
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Default Re: Kjo OOP in a 3 bet pot

Yeh Boston, with the loose player in, if you call all the way you are getting extra parlay on your hand, however when he decides to check through, you lose out quite substantially. If you check / raise the flop you will get 1bb in on each street when you are a favourite and be able to get out cheaply if you are not.

If you get 3-bet on this flop, call and fold turn UI, because he 3-bet he will almost 100% bet the turn and you pick up 4bb which is great implied odds.

WA/WB can apply, but as I said before when he decided to check we miss out on a guaranteed 1BB from the loose player.

I don't see how check/calling down is better than check/raising apart from the fact that you may improve on the river and take down the pot or you may allow the aggressor to keep betting an inferior hand. A lot of the time however if he has a hand he will bet with, he will continue to call with it in what is now a big pot.

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