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Old 11-18-2007, 09:17 PM
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Default Mid pair against a 23/15 TAG

My hand doesn't have any real showdown value, is this worth bluffing?

Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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BTN: $83.38
SB: $103.50
BB: $153.18
UTG: $98
MP: $97
Hero (CO): $101.50

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $4</font>, Hero calls $4, 3 folds

Flop: ($9.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $7</font>, Hero calls $7

Turn: ($23.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($23.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero?????
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:18 PM
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Default Re: Mid pair against a 23/15 TAG

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My hand doesn't have any real showdown value

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? u beat all ace highs. check and expect to scoop a good % of the time
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:21 PM
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Default Re: Mid pair against a 23/15 TAG

why doesnt it.
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:23 PM
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Default Re: Mid pair against a 23/15 TAG

i'd bet turn for value
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:24 PM
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Default Re: Mid pair against a 23/15 TAG

I guess; I really don't think I have a solid understanding of showdown value.
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:25 PM
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Default Re: Mid pair against a 23/15 TAG

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i'd bet turn for value

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Just in-case he has a draw or overcards? How big would you bet?
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:25 PM
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Default Re: Mid pair against a 23/15 TAG

You aren't repping anything if you bet river. Check, take it down some, meh.
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:03 PM
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Default Re: Mid pair against a 23/15 TAG

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i'd bet turn for value

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i think a turn bet is a bluff against 99-jj here.
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:17 PM
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Default Re: Mid pair against a 23/15 TAG

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i'd bet turn for value

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i think a turn bet is a bluff against 99-jj here.

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yes but a valuebet against all the rest
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:19 PM
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Default Re: Mid pair against a 23/15 TAG

turn bet can be fine once in a while, don't make it a habit against the same player though.

certainly isn't a "bet turn 100% of the time" spot.
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