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Old 11-13-2007, 10:04 PM
patoof patoof is offline
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Default NL25 TP2K+nut flush draw, turn play

First i call preflop because i don't want do a huge reraise which certainly will be called by at less one players.

The most important thing for me is the best line at turn as played.
I think my shove turn is pretty bad because only hand which beat me will call.
I don't even know if the lead turn is a good idea.
What do you think ?

Vilain is 15/8/1.7 over 350 hands.

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $27.30
MP: $24.75
CO: $14.30
BTN: $25.70
SB: $27
Hero (BB): $54.10

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $0.75</font>, BTN calls $0.75, SB calls $0.65, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($3) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $2</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $2, SB folds

Turn: ($7) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $8</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $51.35 and is All-In</font>, BTN calls $14.95 and is All-In
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Old 11-13-2007, 10:57 PM
MAA MAA is offline
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Default Re: NL25 TP2K+nut flush draw, turn play

I think you can bet a bit more on the flop on a drawy oard like this. On the turn I like a bet there you have a strong hand and a flush draw. He can easily have a pair of T or 9, a flush draw or an OESD in every case you want to charge him. His min raise looks scary and I suspect you are beat there so there is no point in shoving over but you could call for the flush draw value and reevaluate on the river.
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:03 PM
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Default Re: NL25 TP2K+nut flush draw, turn play

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First i call preflop because i don't want do a huge reraise which certainly will be called by at less one players.


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That's fine, we have what's most likely the best hand preflop. I like 3betting here, especially since it's CO who raised, easily could be blind stealing.

Flop is fine.
Turn bet is fine. He's not folding for 14 more, so I think I just call his minraise (looks like he has a set or 2pr), and try to spike my flush or higher 2pr on the river.
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:08 PM
doppelganger doppelganger is offline
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Default Re: NL25 TP2K+nut flush draw, turn play

Anybody 3bet PF here? (For value and to isolate)
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:20 PM
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Default Re: NL25 TP2K+nut flush draw, turn play

Probably but look at the stats. And IF you think you can isolate.
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:27 PM
doppelganger doppelganger is offline
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Default Re: NL25 TP2K+nut flush draw, turn play

True, but if I'm reading this correctly, villain who's stats were given is BTN not CO, right? A tight player flat calling a raise from his button is different than a tight player making a raise from the CO.

Which is which OP?
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:34 PM
Jailblazers Jailblazers is offline
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Default Re: NL25 TP2K+nut flush draw, turn play

I 3bet here anyway if CO isn't a complete LP donkey or if he is not a total nit.
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:53 PM
Dallas_kk Dallas_kk is offline
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Default Re: NL25 TP2K+nut flush draw, turn play

I think we only get called here by hands that beat us but us it close with the nfd
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:56 PM
Jailblazers Jailblazers is offline
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Default Re: NL25 TP2K+nut flush draw, turn play

Ok, so if we all agree that calling the turn is best. What do we do on a club river...shove or check to induce a bluff? non-club river I think is check-fold.
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:27 AM
P0kerJunkie P0kerJunkie is offline
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Default Re: NL25 TP2K+nut flush draw, turn play

Yeah, you definitely need to be 3 betting this pf. Flop is fine. On the turn I'd recommend flat calling, because the min raise definitely looks like 2 pair or trips. If a club river comes, I probably check to induce another bet- the minraise doesn't look like a bluff to me (i just went bust earlier thinking that a minraise was a bluff), so we're checking to check-raise all-in, not so much to induce a bluff, as villain probably won't know he's behind.

non-club river: c/f
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