AA river play

[1fineday]

Villain is 50/12, but I have only 32 hands on him.
Please tell my mistakes if there are any

Party Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $7.80
BB: $24.90
UTG: $27.03
Hero (MP): $32.60
CO: $23.67
BTN: $28.03

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1</font>, CO calls $1, 3 folds

Flop: ($2.35) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $2</font>, CO calls $2

Turn: ($6.35) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $1.25</font>, Hero calls $1.25

River: ($8.85) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $13</font>, Hero folds

Results: $16.85 Pot
CO mucked and WON $25.01 (+$16.76 NET)

[thac]

Why did you c/c the turn? What did that tell you about his hand? Nothing that you didn't already know, that's for sure. Betting $4 on the turn and folding to a raise is much better than c/c turn and betting $4 blindly on the river.

[Unknown Soldier]

i think (hope) his plan was to c/f the turn thac, but then the guy bet redic small

c/f the river

[stillnaive]

He has to realize that you'll probably fold the $4 river bet to any pressure after c/c-ing the turn. He probably puts you on a busted straight/2nd or 3rd pair at that point.

[thac]

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i think (hope) his plan was to c/f the turn thac, but then the guy bet redic small

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Lol I'm dumb, didn't see that the bet was that small.

[bknollenberg]

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He has to realize that you'll probably fold the $4 river bet to any pressure after c/c-ing the turn. He probably puts you on a busted straight/2nd or 3rd pair at that point.

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lol what busted straight exists here?

[1fineday]

The idea was that if he had a draw, say a 10x, it hit him on the turn.
So, why help him build a big pot?
By bettion on the 4-th street we rarely get value from hands that are behind, and we don't want to play a big pot. Betting to defend our hand on the turn is not good for me, because we are already ahead or behind.
River - a kind of a blocking bet to get value from single K or Q and fold to a stronger hand

[stillnaive]

Broadway misses if he doesn't have the 10. That read doesn't make sense with the way he played the hand, though; I misread the board.

I still think the villain puts him on something pretty weak after the c/c and small river bet. The line looks like a PFR and cont bet; when he c/c's the turn, it looks like a beatable pair and easily pushed off the hand.

[thac]

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The idea was that if he had a draw, say a 10x, it hit him on the turn.
So, why help him build a big pot?
By bettion on the 4-th street we rarely get value from hands that are behind, and we don't want to play a big pot. Betting to defend our hand on the turn is not good for me, because we are already ahead or behind.
River - a kind of a blocking bet to get value from single K or Q and fold to a stronger hand

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You're contradicting yourself. You're saying you don't wanna build a pot, which I agree with, because you're ahead or behind. But then you wanna block the river to get value from a K or a Q? If you bet the turn, he's gonna call with a K or a Q, and he's gonna raise with a hand that beats us, and we can fold if he raises. Then we can check the river through, and fold if he bets pretty big.

[1fineday]

say he has a 10 and the turn card hits him... wouldn't he like to call a bet on the turn and raise a river in position?
This line can bring a value for Vilalin, becouse if Hero bets on the turn, and Villain just calls with a 10, he will probably be able to get some more chips from Hero on the river. But many hands in Hero's range will fold to a turn raise and Villain gains little value with a straight