My ladies aren't so bright....

[HoldEmNewby]

Not much of a read on villain. I don't like checking behind on the flop; I think a bet to $20 is good. That said how do I react to a flop c/r? Call and get it in on a non heart,7, A, K turn? Seems like alot of cards to dodge.

Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $150.93
Hero (UTG): $207.45
BTN: $36.10
SB: $163.48

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $14</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $10

Flop: ($29) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero????

[Chicago Twister]

I'd bet 25ish on the flop, push over a CR.

[Alobar]

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I'd bet 25ish on the flop, push over a CR.

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Isnt that bad, since we are semi deep?

am I the only one who doesnt think we get checkraised a lot? His hand isnt near strong enough that hes gunna risk giving a free card on this board, unless hes got QJ, and even then going for a checkraise is kinda dumb IMO. Looks like he just is scared of the flop cuz it hits alot of our PF calling range.

[Chicago Twister]

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I'd bet 25ish on the flop, push over a CR.

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Isnt that bad, since we are semi deep?



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Maybe, I thought this was NL200

[Chicago Twister]

were not really that deep tho

[Ranma4703]

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were not really that deep tho

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Do you think we have enough of an edge vs his calling range when we push? He isn't folding AA or KK, he might call with JJ, he doesn't have AT, if he has AhKh we are actually behind, if he has TT or 99 we are drawing to 6 outs... The only time the push is good when he is c/r bluffing after reraising preflop. How often is that happening?

[Nick Royale]

I bet/3b. If he check/raises this flop he'll have a draw alot. We have decent eq vs AA/KK/set anyways (25ish).

[wuwei]

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I'd bet 25ish on the flop, push over a CR.

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Isnt that bad, since we are semi deep?

am I the only one who doesnt think we get checkraised a lot? His hand isnt near strong enough that hes gunna risk giving a free card on this board, unless hes got QJ, and even then going for a checkraise is kinda dumb IMO. Looks like he just is scared of the flop cuz it hits alot of our PF calling range.

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I don't think it's bad this deep because the hands he goes for a c/r with are hands that we are currently ahead of, for the most part.

I'd just take a card off.

Betting isn't going to fold out stuff like AA or KK, even though he's scared of the flop. If you want to try to fold those hands, prepare to fire your whole stack at this pot. The only part of his range that folds to a flop bet is AK, AQ.

edit: just noticed we're 4-handed, which opens up his 3-betting range more than I was thinking. Still like checking the flop, if I bet it I'm not folding.

[Ranma4703]

Without reads, I would bet/fold. Really hard without reads if he check/raises you.

[Chicago Twister]

"I would bet/fold."

terrible