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Old 11-11-2007, 07:20 AM
YKMM YKMM is offline
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Default NL 100 - River play - Awkward value-3-betting spot

Villain is a mediocre TAG with 21/12/8 stats in a large sample. No other history. The raise from the river is obviously strong but do I have a value-3-bet here? The obvious range of opponent is 10[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], KT, and **maybe** sets. Regarding my flop and turn bet sizing, I am trying to induce a raise from two-pair/sets.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($95.65)
UTG+1 ($18.50)
MP1 ($18.90)
MP2 ($215.35)
MP3 ($23.45)
CO ($124.90)
Button ($101.45)
Hero ($104.10)
BB ($72.95)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls $1, MP3 calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($4) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, BB folds, MP2 calls $3, MP3 folds.

Turn: ($10) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, MP2 calls $8.

River: ($26) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $16</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $32</font>, Hero ......
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Old 11-11-2007, 07:24 AM
SABR42 SABR42 is offline
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Default Re: NL 100 - River play - Awkward value-3-betting spot

Meh, I'd just call.

K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]x [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] etc...

I don't think he calls a shove with worse very often.
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Old 11-11-2007, 07:31 AM
RyanCMU RyanCMU is offline
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Default Re: NL 100 - River play - Awkward value-3-betting spot

Not much of his open limping range connects w/ this board. I think a lot of 2pair and set type hands can be ruled out w/ that measure alone. Especially, consdiering how he played flop and turn, I think we can rule out JJ, QQ, AA. So there goes the slowplayed premiums theory. Moving on, I guess I could see A4 or A5 being open limped and then putting in this tiny river raise. However, the chance of him having a hand like that is just as likely as him having someting liek TsXs and backdooring this flush, plus I don't think he pays off a river 3bet w/ only 2pair here. I like just a call.
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