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Old 11-07-2007, 06:29 PM
freshbeats freshbeats is offline
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Default stars 50nl, 78s turn spot... line thoughts?

villian has been raising alot preflop over the last 20-30h, no real history other than preflop. instashoved over my position 3bet (when i first thought he was getting out of line)... since then i've called once pf but mostly kept to my own.

i feel like at the pace we're playing he knows i would raise the flop with a big hand. is this getting rid of any folding equity i have by shoving?

folding is always an option, but if i straight call, what's the river line? blank? court card?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">UTG+1 ($68.25)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($42.20)</font>
MP2 ($48.95)
CO ($50)
Button ($33)
SB ($51)
BB ($73.60)
UTG ($60.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $2.5</font>, Hero calls $2.50, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>.

Flop: ($6.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $3.5</font>, Hero calls $3.50.

Turn: ($13.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero?
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:39 PM
sapol sapol is offline
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Default Re: stars 50nl, 78s turn spot... line thoughts?

I don't like calling a big raise with suited connectors with so many people behind.

On the flop if you know that he will fold to a raise then why not raise?

I don't like shoving at any point of this hand
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:42 PM
AllTheCheese AllTheCheese is offline
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Default Re: stars 50nl, 78s turn spot... line thoughts?

Terrible call preflop. I shove turn. I doubt he's bet/calling an overpair on this board. If he has a set, you have a bunch of outs.
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:58 PM
freshbeats freshbeats is offline
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Default Re: stars 50nl, 78s turn spot... line thoughts?

sapol i never said i knew he'd fold, i said i'm (in his eyes) not slowplaying a big hand on this flop vs him.

so with that many outs on the turn, are you folding? do you hate money? flat calling? i'll be the first to admit pf is not so hot, but now that i'm here...
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:29 PM
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Default Re: stars 50nl, 78s turn spot... line thoughts?

the problem comes if you call and then he shutdowns. If that happends your call becomes EV- so basically he has to have a hand here or you're wasting your monye chasing a draw (we agree you're prolly behind now)
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:30 PM
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Default Re: stars 50nl, 78s turn spot... line thoughts?

Fold preflop.

Call turn.
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