75$ FTP: 6-handed, tough spot with 7's preflop

[memento_mori]

I have pretty little experience playing 6-handed mtts, and It's a serious leak of mine that I have no clue what the standard line here.
I realise that it's a really read dependant situation, but villian just got moved to the table.

Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 120/240 Blinds, 25 Ante, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: 4,010
SB: 4,835
BB: 4,330
UTG: 4,838
MP: 4,905
Hero (CO): 7,620

Pre-Flop: (510) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
<font color="red">UTG raises to 720</font>, hero ???

[Dunkman]

Just fold, no reason to get in a pissing contest, and you'll have a read soon.

[sapsuckah]

Ugh... I fold. Here's why:

1. Villain only has 20 BBs so the implied odds aren't great for calling for set value.

2. He's new to the table so, without further knowledge, you have to respect a UTG raise.

3. Everyone still to act has a great stack for a resteal-squeeze.

I wouldn't berate anyone for pushing here though. But I think a fold is better.

[BigZag]

I Like a fold here too. You are the big stack at the table so there's no reason to jeapordize this advantage in a marginal spot where you don't have any info on your opponent.

As you said this is a very read dependant situation, it may feel odd folding a fairly strong hand like this against a shorter stack in position. But the fact is you have no idea where you are in the hand and will in all liklihood face a large continuation bet on a flop containing overcards to your pair if you call or find urself up against an over pair if you push.

[hamnegger]

if we push we have some fe and we prob have the best hand.id opt for the more aggro approach here 6 handed. it looks like ak,aq and may push out ace hi hands or kq.if we lose we can still be a factor w a double up

[memento_mori]

[ QUOTE ]
if we push we have some fe and we prob have the best hand.id opt for the more aggro approach here 6 handed. it looks like ak,aq and may push out ace hi hands or kq.if we lose we can still be a factor w a double up

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah that was my main argumen for shoving here too.
We might get KQ,AX and small pocket pairs to fold (heck, he might even fold 88).
To those people saying fold, what range would you push with?

[Bond18]

8's are def a shove. 7's are close, but if we ran the numbers i bet they'd say shove as well, if only by a little. I feel good folding 6's here.

Anyone good with pstove in spots like this?

[plzleenowhammy]

i 3-bet/call a shove here.. if he has 88+ oh well.. chalk it up to delusional hubris.

[levAA]

As often - it depends

Against an UGT-raise 6max I would fold 77 here if it is a straightforward player with a range something like that.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 57.456% 56.81% 00.65% 682850976 7790502.00 { 66+, AJs+, KQs, QJs, AJo+, KQo }
Hand 1: 42.544% 41.90% 00.65% 503605428 7790502.00 { 77 }

and against this range we might not have enough FE for a shove. with 88 it gets much better

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 53.988% 53.35% 00.64% 641284464 7669542.00 { 66+, AJs+, KQs, QJs, AJo+, KQo }
Hand 1: 46.012% 45.37% 00.64% 545413860 7669542.00 { 88 }

[sapsuckah]

[ QUOTE ]
it looks like ak,aq

[/ QUOTE ]

Um, how exactly can you say this given that he's new to the table? When estimating ranges, use your head, not your heart.