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Old 11-06-2007, 01:23 AM
22riverrat22 22riverrat22 is offline
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Default AQ missed flop, C-bet?

I tried to clean this up a little bit the link to the hand converter in the "read bfore posting" wasnt working

$5 + $0.50 Knockout 200/400 Ante 50 - No Limit Hold'em -
180 of 1150 remaining
Seat 1: mimi-luvs-poker (10,770)
Seat 2: oakleyannie (15,796)
Seat 3: vandy1479 (4,230)
Seat 4: nervousbug
Seat 5: Best Chick
Seat 6: ty_chi84 (4,515)
Seat 7: 22RiverRat22 (7,020)
Seat 8: Nobjc (8,922)
Seat 9: AEG56 (3,835)

mimi-luvs-poker posts the SB 200
oakleyannie posts the BB 400
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 22RiverRat22 [Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
vandy1479 calls 400
nervousbug folds
mimi-luvs-poker: had those itty bitty 3's lol
Best Chick folds
mimi-luvs-poker: gh
ty_chi84 calls 400
22RiverRat22 raises to 1,300
mimi-luvs-poker: Jaws is alive lol
Nobjc has 15 seconds left to act
Nobjc folds
AEG56 folds
mimi-luvs-poker folds
oakleyannie calls 900
vandy1479 folds
ty_chi84 folds
*** FLOP *** [K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
oakleyannie checks.............

This is a pretty common situation and looking at just stack sizes how do u play this? do u c bet, how much? are u never in this spot because of diferent action pre?

OK before i get 50 responses just focusing on what i knew right away -I know the size of the raise is horendous-

also as far as reads ive seen her call light and fold if her oponent is deep, and she knows im not raising with air.

i dunno AQ and K hi flops / AK and Q hi flops have been giving me trouble lately but........ck fold if i dont improve and move on ...seems weak, but with pot size/ my stack size?
thoughts?
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Old 11-06-2007, 01:48 AM
swede554 swede554 is offline
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Default Re: AQ missed flop, C-bet?

As played, I'd check behind. Your smallish preflop raise puts you in a bad spot, you have about 5,700 left in your stack and the pot is 3,600, so any CB will basically commit you the the pot. We have an over, gutshot to the nut straight, and the backdoor nut flush draw, so I don't mind checking behind here taking a free card. However, I wouldn't find myself in this spot. I'd make it 2000-2200 pre, and then just shove the flop.
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Old 11-06-2007, 01:57 AM
sharkscopeaholic sharkscopeaholic is offline
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Default Re: AQ missed flop, C-bet?

I def check behind here, if he checkraises you on the flop then you mightve taken yourself out of the pot if you dont go all in. Take the free draws.
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Old 11-06-2007, 01:22 PM
Dunkman Dunkman is offline
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Default Re: AQ missed flop, C-bet?

First, with 1850 in the pot when it gets to us I'd just shove PF.

Second, I'd check behind here. I mean how I'd probably do it is to take about 10 seconds, at least make him think there's some chance we hit it hard and are slowplaying (which we would obv never do on a board this wet, but I'm guessing he doesn't know that.) He's gonna crai a lot here, and this board has to be all over his range, so I don't think a cbet takes it down enough to be profitable. Also, we have outs, so that makes a crai suck even more for us.
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Old 11-06-2007, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: AQ missed flop, C-bet?

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First, with 1850 in the pot when it gets to us I'd just shove PF.

Second, I'd check behind here. I mean how I'd probably do it is to take about 10 seconds, at least make him think there's some chance we hit it hard and are slowplaying (which we would obv never do on a board this wet, but I'm guessing he doesn't know that.) He's gonna crai a lot here, and this board has to be all over his range, so I don't think a cbet takes it down enough to be profitable. Also, we have outs, so that makes a crai suck even more for us.

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Yeah, exactly what dunkman said. I really like the preflop shove over the limpers because a) the pot's already reasonably big, b) you won't be called often, c) you're almost always ahead or getting correct odds when you are called, and d) it helps to discourage players to your right from limping in the future (which gives you more opportunities to open the pot).
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:28 PM
ArtMonkRules ArtMonkRules is offline
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Default Re: AQ missed flop, C-bet?

Hey, I'm in this game!!!!
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:58 PM
Tackleberry Tackleberry is offline
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Default Re: AQ missed flop, C-bet?

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I tried to clean this up a little bit the link to the hand converter in the "read bfore posting" wasnt working

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That was Full Tilt, wasnīt it? Try this one:

http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter/

You have to register but itīs a very nice tool!
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