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#1
11-05-2007, 11:19 PM
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Too optimistic?
Maybe a bad river card?
PokerStars $5/$10 Limit Hold'em - 5 players Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] UTG folds, CO folds, <font color="#FF0000">Button raises</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB folds, <font color="#FF0000">Button caps!</font>, Hero calls. Flop: (9.00 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#FF0000">Button bets</font>, Hero calls. Turn: (5.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#FF0000">Button bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, Button calls. River: (9.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, Button folds. Final Pot: 9.50 BB Oh my image blows. I have been getting cold decked, showing down too much and pushing hard. 
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#2
11-05-2007, 11:34 PM
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Re: Too optimistic?
bad turn c/r imo
raise the flop if ur gonna put in more action that river is pretty gross but I would call a raise there as played, unless some reads tell me otherwise
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#3
11-05-2007, 11:35 PM
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Re: Too optimistic?
Yawn....
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#5
11-05-2007, 11:58 PM
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Re: Too optimistic?
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[ QUOTE ] Yawn.... [/ QUOTE ] That boring huh? [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] It may not be the hand thats boring, but instead maybe Im just bored with the hand. I just dont see anything wrong with the way you played this hand. I mean I did notice that you decided to check/raise the turn instead of check/raising the flop, but that in itself isnt really that interesting since we should all be playing top pair like this from time to time just to mix up our game. I suppose we could talk about the exact type of opponent whom it would be best to mix it up and C/R the turn against. Naturally it would be someone who plays more on the fearless side and double barrels and showsdown on the above average side. I guess the river does pose some problems since I know a few regulars on AP that will raise that Ace river with any hand they intended to call with, but in general I prefer betting the river vs checking since most players will only bet in that spot when were losing.
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#7
11-06-2007, 12:27 AM
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Re: Too optimistic?
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wouldnt c/c down be best? wa/wb situation? [/ QUOTE ] Normally, but I think his capping range is pretty wide here. My image and the blind steal element should add quite a few hands.
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#8
11-06-2007, 12:53 AM
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Re: Too optimistic?
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[ QUOTE ] wouldnt c/c down be best? wa/wb situation? [/ QUOTE ] Normally, but I think his capping range is pretty wide here. My image and the blind steal element should add quite a few hands. [/ QUOTE ] Well thats information you didnt bother to share with us haha
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#9
11-06-2007, 12:53 AM
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Re: Too optimistic?
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wouldnt c/c down be best? wa/wb situation? [/ QUOTE ] Against certain opponents it will be. Against most opponents I dont think so. I just dont think an "in position cap from the BTN" vs a "SB 3bet of a BTN open raise" should be given that much respect against the average opponent. People cap with all kinds of non-premiums in this spot. I would argue that this is probably the widest range cap in the game. And then when you add in the fact that most people show down more than they should, taking an aggressive line somewhere post flop certainly has merit. I do think that taking an aggressive line will lead to more profits in this spot than talking a C/C down line but I cannot prove this. I will also add that if you are playing lower limits like 2-4 or below I would advocate a check/call down line not becuz I think players capping ranges are generally tighter in this spot although this is probably true, but becuz so many more players 3barrel at the lower limits cuz they cant read hands , so by playing passive in this spot you take advantage of the high levels of "retarded aggression" that is rampant at the lowest limits while at the same time you avoid paying the maximum vs a better hand.
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#10
11-06-2007, 12:57 AM
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Re: Too optimistic?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] wouldnt c/c down be best? wa/wb situation? [/ QUOTE ] Normally, but I think his capping range is pretty wide here. My image and the blind steal element should add quite a few hands. [/ QUOTE ] Well thats information you didnt bother to share with us haha [/ QUOTE ] The fact that the villains capping range is pretty wide should be implied by the action. Read my post above.
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