Going for the big payday? Large or Small Value against a fish.

[Trikkur]

This hand came up last night and it was what I was waiting for all day. There was a 60/15/.5 fish in my BB and we were both deepstacked. He isn't very aggressive and has more station tendencies than anything. I was raising pretty loose on the button because he was letting me manipulate the pot so I'm pretty sure I could afford to play any two cards. On the river I'm not sure what to bet. What are your opinions on these different sizes.

50-75 - Get value from all kinds of random hands he may be playing

75-125 - Get value from random hands like 99/TT

125-150 - The guy is really passive and I think he might be afraid with a 78/89 and not want to go broke, but can't fold the hand. This might also rope him in with some other overpair type hands.

150-200 - This is folding out most things expect other 8s. I'm not sure how likely he has an 8 is, but it might be worth it to get tons of value.

Open Shove for 315 - Can he actually fold an 8? I think I'd rather do this with a set (aka a boat with the 2x 8s) but I think it's an option.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $432.15
SB: $87
BB: $657.05
UTG: $200
MP: $453.75
CO: $178

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, SB calls $6, BB calls $5

Flop: ($21) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">BB bets $14</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $40</font>, SB folds, BB calls $26

Turn: ($101) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $72</font>, BB calls $72

River: ($245) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks

[spivey]

I like around 150 because we still get a fair amount of value from 8s and a station may call with 99-JJ here.

[Montezuma21]

betting anything less than 200 is very bad here IMO. 8x and missed FD form a pretty big part of his range here, and the best way to get value is to bet big, especially as he's going to have a VERY hard time folding 8x as you could so easily have a missed FD here.

[Noam Chomsky]

just bet big

[orange]

i like raising the flop to like...55.

on the river, anything he calls $120-150 with, he's probably calling a larger bet. i doubt the frequencies are much larger/smaller on either side. i just bet larger.