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Old 11-03-2007, 04:04 PM
Bakedd Bakedd is offline
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Default FTP 15k 50+5 AK NFD w/ TPTK

What is my turn play here? What is he limping with in LP and then smoothcalling my preflop bet? If he does have a 9 here and I bet, he will raise me, and I have to call with 9 outs. If I check raise, he will only call with a 9 that beats me, and I think check raising is bad here. How weak is check calling here?

Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 15/30 Blinds, 9 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): 1,835
BB: 2,110
UTG: 1,685
UTG+1: 2,175
UTG+2: 1,960
MP1: 5,770
MP2: 1,510
CO: 3,460
BTN: 2,675

Pre-Flop: (45) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
4 folds, MP2 calls 30, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to 120</font>, BB folds, MP2 calls 90

Flop: (270) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets 150</font>, MP2 calls 150

Turn: (570) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero??
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Old 11-03-2007, 04:32 PM
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Default Re: FTP 15k 50+5 AK NFD w/ TPTK

Better yet, why are you putting him on a 9? You're going to see very similar play from AT-AQ as you described IMO other than maybe raising your bet. I would still lead out here 300 and see what he does. If he raises, call and see the river. If he just smooth calls, I fire again on the river regardless of the card (other than maybe if an 8 rivered)
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Old 11-03-2007, 07:14 PM
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Because I am only worried about any nine and 88. I feel that is a somewhat scary board, and alot of hands are folding I feel.
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Old 11-03-2007, 08:36 PM
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bc i sometimes c-bet then c-fold if called. this is perfect time to check and say "im scared of the ace" . yes he may be drawing and im giving him free card. but if he bets i can raise.if the river is ok card and he checks i make a strong river bet and hope he has enough to call.88 99 are only hands i lose to.and i will pay those hands off.
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Old 11-03-2007, 08:47 PM
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bc i sometimes c-bet then c-fold if called. this is perfect time to check and say "im scared of the ace" . yes he may be drawing and im giving him free card. but if he bets i can raise.if the river is ok card and he checks i make a strong river bet and hope he has enough to call.88 99 are only hands i lose to.and i will pay those hands off.

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Dude, what? I am in position, and there are alot more hands than 88 and 99 I'm losing to. The only hand he is drawing to is JT. How do you put him on JT?
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Old 11-03-2007, 09:20 PM
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bet 400 and call a push.
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Old 11-03-2007, 11:20 PM
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bet 400 and call a push.

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Old 11-04-2007, 12:24 AM
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bc i sometimes c-bet then c-fold if called. this is perfect time to check and say "im scared of the ace" . yes he may be drawing and im giving him free card. but if he bets i can raise.if the river is ok card and he checks i make a strong river bet and hope he has enough to call.88 99 are only hands i lose to.and i will pay those hands off.

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ok i did not read the info carefully he limped making 99 88 not likely. ace9s ace8s 89s 910s are much more likely as is a small pocket pair or flush draw. so if you are unsure here doesn't checking make sense? you want to check call then i assume. if he checks behind i bet the river.
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