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Old 10-31-2007, 11:26 AM
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Default turn continuation bet 3 handed

button is unknown here,
sb is 41/13/1.0 539

should i b/f the turn? c/f?

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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3SB, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3BB, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero ?
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:33 AM
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Default Re: turn continuation bet 3 handed

I think its good

I think it would be a no brainer if either 1 or both of villains would be raising the flop with pairs.
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: turn continuation bet 3 handed

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I think its good

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you mean hero should bet the turn right?
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:42 AM
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Default Re: turn continuation bet 3 handed

ya
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Old 10-31-2007, 07:58 PM
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Default Re: turn continuation bet 3 handed

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I think its good

I think it would be a no brainer if either 1 or both of villains would be raising the flop with pairs.

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button openlimper = not gonna play the flop straightforwardly/well. this is sorta an annoying spot cuz unknown button limpers like to get stupid postflop and i dunno if you should fold if raised here.

that said, the presence of bb here makes it protects you a bit more from a dumbo bluff so i think you can go ahead and bet.
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:33 PM
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Default Re: turn continuation bet 3 handed

ok, i think i agree. but now i'm wondering - they will call with any draw and weak made hands. if the button folds, i'm lucky and can just check the river. but what to do on the river if the button calls again - i can't bet, i'll be value owned if i c/c, and c/f seems incredibly frustrating.
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:46 PM
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Default Re: turn continuation bet 3 handed

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ok, i think i agree. but now i'm wondering - they will call with any draw and weak made hands. if the button folds, i'm lucky and can just check the river. but what to do on the river if the button calls again - i can't bet, i'll be value owned if i c/c, and c/f seems incredibly frustrating.

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ev[c/c vs. button openlimper] &gt;&gt; ev[c/c vs thinking player]
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:50 PM
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ok, i think i agree. but now i'm wondering - they will call with any draw and weak made hands. if the button folds, i'm lucky and can just check the river. but what to do on the river if the button calls again - i can't bet, i'll be value owned if i c/c, and c/f seems incredibly frustrating.

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ev[c/c vs. button openlimper] &gt;&gt; ev[c/c vs thinking player]

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For sure. If river bricks of and you are HU vs button you have a pretty easy c/c vs a coldcaller IMO
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:03 PM
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Default Re: turn continuation bet 3 handed

coldcaller? you meant open-limper?

doesn't the fact that he open-limps indicate passivity? his stats are not that aggressive either. for

ev[c/c vs. button openlimper] &gt;&gt; ev[c/c vs thinking player]

to be true he must bluff &gt;&gt; than optimal. why would we expect that to be the case given his somewhat passive nature so far?
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:10 PM
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ya, misread. Sorry. But conclusion remains the same
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