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Old 10-27-2007, 10:33 AM
SkeetyMcdoogle SkeetyMcdoogle is offline
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Default NL50, marginal hand faced with Obvious Blocking bet

I was lost on the turn here, wasn't sure whether to call the turn donk and hope the draws didnt hit or should I raise and try to protect. Pretty sure my raise was too small anyway, but whatever.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($31.70)
MP ($138.70)
Hero ($49.25)
Button ($6.75)
SB ($38.35)
BB ($65.25)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($4.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, SB calls $3.

Turn: ($10.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $9</font>, SB calls $6.

River: ($28.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $4</font>, Hero calls $4.

Final Pot: $36.50

River is an obvious call because of odds and all the missed draws, but what do you guys do on turn?

Get used to these threads, I only 4 table now so I actually have to think about what Im doing ;]
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Old 10-27-2007, 10:54 AM
Profish2285 Profish2285 is offline
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Default Re: NL50, marginal hand faced with Obvious Blocking bet

Fold turn. What are you raising to protect with, 3rd pair? Until you get a read that weak donks on the turn indicate a weak hand, I dont like this at all. Im not sure why you think villain cant have a top pair hand here.
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Old 10-27-2007, 11:12 AM
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Default Re: NL50, marginal hand faced with Obvious Blocking bet

Fold turn without a very good read.
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Old 10-27-2007, 01:11 PM
Daniel LeClaire Daniel LeClaire is offline
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Default Re: NL50, marginal hand faced with Obvious Blocking bet

Realize if you raise the turn it is a bluff. Unless you have an amazing read on villain.

I would fold the turn. He probably has a weak J or T and, even if you raise him, he's not going to fold. Occasionally you will see a draw here, but even that hand isn't far behind, so I fold.
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Old 10-27-2007, 01:24 PM
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Default Re: NL50, marginal hand faced with Obvious Blocking bet

jam river, he wont call.
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Old 10-27-2007, 01:34 PM
TheRenaissance TheRenaissance is offline
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Default Re: NL50, marginal hand faced with Obvious Blocking bet

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jam river, he wont call.

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i always do that then they think and think and think and eventually call with T7
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Old 10-27-2007, 01:34 PM
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Default Re: NL50, marginal hand faced with Obvious Blocking bet

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jam river, he wont call.

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Are you serious? He has around $22 left into a $36 pot.
Looks like a typical calling station to me.

As played I fold the turn. If you're going to raise I make it about $13/14
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Old 10-27-2007, 01:36 PM
andys0506 andys0506 is offline
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Default Re: NL50, marginal hand faced with Obvious Blocking bet

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jam river, he wont call.

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i always do that then they think and think and think and eventually call with T7

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Yes my thoughts exactly
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Old 10-27-2007, 01:49 PM
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Default Re: NL50, marginal hand faced with Obvious Blocking bet

Reads on villain would help.

I go $3.25 at least on flop.

Surprised people want to fold turn getting 4/1. Even if we give villain a 15 outer and go with our read that he is drawing, we're gonna be good 60%+ of the time (erm, I think - my maths are hopeless). I'd rather just go with those numbers and flat the turn.

We also need to consider when our read is wrong and he has TP+ (which will be some of the time), betting then isn't often going to fold him out.

I also think this is a small pot hand once we reach the turn. I'd rather let villain draw than bloat up the pot whilst never really being sure what's going on.
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Old 10-27-2007, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: NL50, marginal hand faced with Obvious Blocking bet

river is not an obvious call. dont get hung up on pot odds. he has a T or weak J almost always. as for shoving, you'll get looked up a lot here because he'll put u on a fd or ak or whatever, ime.
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