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Old 10-25-2007, 09:51 PM
ejay ejay is offline
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Default 88 i wanna make a play

villan is 26/17/2.3 over 150. I think he is squeezing here a lot, but is this still a waste??

Party Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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BB: $205
Hero (UTG): $241.40
MP: $81.90
CO: $161
BTN: $373.37
SB: $96.51

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, 3 folds, SB calls $7, <font color="red">BB raises to $34</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises ??
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Old 10-25-2007, 11:47 PM
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Default Re: 88 i wanna make a play

If you are so convinced he is making a play then calling seems fine as long as you make it $75 on most flops and c/r the others. Are you convinced?
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Old 10-25-2007, 11:56 PM
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Default Re: 88 i wanna make a play

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If you are so convinced he is making a play then calling seems fine as long as you make it $75 on most flops and c/r the others. Are you convinced?

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He's in position, so neither of these would be possible.
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Old 10-26-2007, 12:03 AM
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Default Re: 88 i wanna make a play

My bad. I read it as he was the SB.

Calling is ok if he c-bets always. Raising is fine if you plan on felting. Folding seems best in a generic form.
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Old 10-26-2007, 12:17 AM
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Default Re: 88 i wanna make a play

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If you are so convinced he is making a play then calling seems fine as long as you make it $75 on most flops and c/r the others. Are you convinced?

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I am not convinced but i think that given the situation this would be a spot for him to make a play. Also i think he views me as a tag and might let go hands SOME hands that are beating me or 50/50 with me
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Old 10-26-2007, 12:31 AM
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Default Re: 88 i wanna make a play

It's a big gamboool. He must notice you are UTG so chances decrease a little that he is 3b'ing light. Push if you wanna make a move (as long as you are pushing other stuff here in this spot).
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Old 10-26-2007, 12:33 AM
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Default Re: 88 i wanna make a play

what are you running at and why is this a squeeze? I don't think he is given no reads or history . . .
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Old 10-26-2007, 12:36 AM
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Default Re: 88 i wanna make a play

i am prolly like 20/15 ish he is a pretty agro tag. The guy in the middle is a cc moron who is running like 50/10 or something, sop i thought that him cc would encourage bb to squeeze or rr hands like AQ/99+ or whatever, hands that he may fold to a push.
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Old 10-26-2007, 12:55 AM
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Default Re: 88 i wanna make a play

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i am prolly like 20/15 ish he is a pretty agro tag. The guy in the middle is a cc moron who is running like 50/10 or something, sop i thought that him cc would encourage bb to squeeze or rr hands like AQ/99+ or whatever, hands that he may fold to a push.

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He's probably not squeezing an UTG 20/15 raiser even with the donk in the SB with a range that your a fav over.

And shoving here is terrible. If you get into the mind set that a thinking player is squuezing you just b/c a moron has cc you are probably gonna find yourself dropping buyins. This obv becomes a diff. hand if you are raising from CO/btn, but even then I'd much rather jam 910s or Axs than 88 . . .
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Old 10-26-2007, 01:11 AM
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Default Re: 88 i wanna make a play

I would only re-raise if I had a really good reason to think villian is squeezing and it would be an AI re-raise aswell.
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