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Old 10-25-2007, 03:16 AM
seki seki is offline
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Default 50NL AKo faces limp rr from the btn

Noobish hand, but limp RR from the BTN?? WTF.

The opponent in this hand was playing 12/5 after 70ish hands, and hadn't reraised once. Obviously super small sample size.

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Hero ($50)
UTG ($12.65)
UTG+1 ($45.50)
MP1 ($14.55)
MP2 ($27.05)
MP3 ($52.35)
CO ($32.90)
Button ($49.45)
SB ($7.05)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $2</font>, Button calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $9.5</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $49.45</font>

<font color="blue">Button: I will show</font>

Hero?
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:21 AM
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Default Re: 50NL AKo faces limp rr from the btn

lol foldfoldfold
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Old 10-25-2007, 05:30 AM
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Default Re: 50NL AKo faces limp rr from the btn

Fold. Its slowplayed kings and aces mostly. Better what you see is coinflip against lower pocket.
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Old 10-25-2007, 11:43 AM
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Default Re: 50NL AKo faces limp rr from the btn

Ok.. like I said, obvious and noobish.

Now.. take his stats to 23/12. Still easy muck?

My point is, what kind of stats does it take for you guys to make this call, if ever? How big a sample? FWIW, he was the 23/12, I was playing 14/10, and made the fold.
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Old 10-25-2007, 11:51 AM
ship_it_trebek ship_it_trebek is offline
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Default Re: 50NL AKo faces limp rr from the btn

When people start chatting it up in the micros during a hand, they have a goods in my experience. I've seen opponents do this same move with AK, flat a raise preflop then suddenly wake up and are 4 betting AI for no sensible reason. If this is limped, I think I'm calling here. I find that people who limp behind other limpers, then 3bet always seem to have AQ, AK, or a 88-QQ sort of pair.
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Old 10-25-2007, 11:58 AM
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Default Re: 50NL AKo faces limp rr from the btn

I haven't seen this online much, but my live experience with players who aren't too good is that they might limp in with a medium PP, then when it gets raised after them they get a rush of blood to the head and shove all their chips in...
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Old 10-25-2007, 12:02 PM
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Default Re: 50NL AKo faces limp rr from the btn

What range are you guys putting him on here? I think he's in the vacinity of 9-9.
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Old 10-25-2007, 12:16 PM
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Default Re: 50NL AKo faces limp rr from the btn

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I haven't seen this online much, but my live experience with players who aren't too good is that they might limp in with a medium PP, then when it gets raised after them they get a rush of blood to the head and shove all their chips in...

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This was specifically what I was thinking. If he hadn't made the table chat, I would have thought a little longer on calling. It's a move I have seen before, but typically when it is a smaller/mid pair doing this, it is a shortstack deciding to take a flip. I couldn't recall a full stacked player taking this line without AA/KK when I thought about it.

Table chat has 90%+ meant "I have it", which is what made the decision a bit easier.

Villain did show, and I'll post results after some feedback about the guys range.
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Old 10-25-2007, 12:25 PM
LarryLaughs LarryLaughs is offline
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Default Re: 50NL AKo faces limp rr from the btn

Unless he has very high 3bet stats I would fold.
Remember that it is even in NLHE:TAP that you should sometimes limp with AA after limpers.

Someone is putting the play to test, this is what I think if a solid player does that. Also, remember that it could be a misclick call on the button and then he got his chance again (I know, not likely but sometimes fun things happen).
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:47 PM
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Hero folds. Villain shows KK, ldo.
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