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Old 10-25-2007, 11:10 AM
Sushiglutton Sushiglutton is offline
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Default How often can I do this

Another LAG question. How often do I need to make a move. I understand question impossible to answer precise, but let's divide it in >50%, 40-50%, 25-40%, 0-25%. Normally I c/f.

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Flop is: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
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Old 10-25-2007, 11:17 AM
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I do it in the neighborhood of 0%. It doesnt seem right, but doing anything other than c/f these flops feels like such spew to me. You could peel hand #2, but its a bit thin.
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Old 10-25-2007, 11:33 AM
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Default Re: How often can I do this

maybe its just me but i c/c down hand 2 a lot unless the next two cards go like K,Q

broadway K,Q,J's have to make up a ton of this guys' button 3 betting range.

in addition, if button is 3 betting a lot of your CO opens then you either need to call down very light or cap pf and lead the flop very light. capping pf with a hand like 98s is good on occasion in these spots.
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Old 10-25-2007, 11:48 AM
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Default Re: How often can I do this

Fold hand 1

Super easy peel in hand 2. I will often see a SD here

Dont make plays vs LAGs
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Old 10-25-2007, 01:32 PM
Sushiglutton Sushiglutton is offline
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Flop 2: Nina says c/f 100% Kid and Oink 0%. I have very high respect for all 3 of you. Anyone care to explain the huge difference?
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Old 10-25-2007, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: How often can I do this

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Flop 2: Nina says c/f 100% Kid and Oink 0%. I have very high respect for all 3 of you. Anyone care to explain the huge difference?

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No Nina said you could peel flop 2 but it's thin. Also Oink is a SD-monkey like myself, thats the difference...
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Old 10-25-2007, 02:04 PM
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In the second one you could be getting 3-bet by KJs or KQo, perhaps worse like QJs in a kind of resteal. It's somewhat thin because usually it's an ace (and there are only a few that we are ahead of, and we are very unlikely to get 3-bet by A4) or a pair.

Check-raising the flop in hand two is a viable play, but I don't like it because it commits us to playing a hand that is usually 2nd best. I think peeling is a good idea though these aggro types will still bet KQo on the turn unimproved, and we wind up folding the best hand. To prevent that from happening, we can check-raise the flop, but that play can get us into all sorts of trouble. So, in conclusion, it's thin, but I just peel the flop and hope villain checks behind on the turn.

Flop #1 I just check and fold.
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Old 10-25-2007, 02:05 PM
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hand 2 the turn never gets checked behind. villain knows you can be peeling a huge range here.
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Old 10-25-2007, 02:10 PM
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Great now there are 3 different ways to play flop#2.
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Old 10-25-2007, 02:25 PM
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Great now there are 3 different ways to play flop#2.

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I think the options in the poll should be b/c, b/f, c/f, c/c or c/r.
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