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Old 10-22-2007, 08:02 PM
BigMac1082 BigMac1082 is offline
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Default A beat, a question, and a level

First the beat (irrelevant):

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP ($141.35)
CO ($110.10)
Button ($53.05)
SB ($95.25)
BB ($188.40)
Hero ($99.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, K.
Hero raises to $3.5, 1 fold, CO raises to $12, 3 folds, Hero calls $8.50.

Flop: ($25.50) 3, 2, 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $22, Hero raises to $87.5 (All-In), CO calls $65.50.

Turn: ($0) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($0) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $200.50

Converter didn't show it, but he had QQ.

My question is, given the way I played the hand, is it possible for my opponent to fold. I'm trying to think that I could fold against a decent opponent, but the more I think about it, the more I think this is some combo draw for me, with the occasional set, and very often JJ or 1010.

Bonus chat:

grizadoja: I can't believe you had
that hand.
ilovemypuppy: sick hand imo
grizadoja: I couldn't possibly put
him on KK there
gomore: sure
gomore: easy call
ilovemypuppy: cooler [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
gomore: bigmac
gomore: had good plan [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
grizadoja: ya think? I dunno, I was
representing something pretty big
- I don't know if he can jsut call
preflop and hope an A doesn't
come
ilovemypuppy: ya u both played it
well
ilovemypuppy: nothing either
could do
gomore: right
gomore: nhs
grizadoja: thx
BigMac1082: river diamond
woulda been nice
grizadoja: that would just been too
evil
gomore: heh
BigMac1082: woulda been justice
BigMac1082: [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] oh well i've run
way too hot the last 3 days
grizadoja: why did you elect to just
call my re-raise preflop?
BigMac1082: cuz i suck and i hate
money
grizadoja: hahaha, no
grizadoja: I mean obviously the
play worked, you had me dead to
a two outer, but I thought you might
try to push me off a big A
grizadoja: worried about AA
maybe
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gomore: or lower pair...
BigMac1082: KK only 1 pair
BigMac1082: not a great hand
grizadoja: well I mean preflop,
heads up, it's pretty fantastic
gomore: pre flop
gomore: strong pair is good [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
BigMac1082: but if you have a
hand like 10 J you have 6 outs
BigMac1082: KK only has 2 outs
BigMac1082: 6 outs > 2 outs
gomore: no
gomore: if u go all in pre flop
gomore: KK > JT [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
BigMac1082: no, you'd be a 75%
favorite
gomore: right
BigMac1082: i know
gomore: but in long term
gomore: KK > J
gomore: JT
gomore: i know that u know ;]
BigMac1082: no, dont you
understand simlpe math
gomore: i understand
gomore: its easy lol
BigMac1082: 6 outs against 2 outs
is 75/25
grizadoja: gomore is right, it
doesn't make any sense what
you're saying
ilovemypuppy: gl griz
ilovemypuppy: i gotta go
grizadoja: but with KK you don't
need outs
BigMac1082: morans
grizadoja: why would you want all
your money in with JT vs. KK?
ilovemypuppy: lol bigmac
ilovemypuppy: u cant level idiots
ilovemypuppy: imo
grizadoja: you need to hit cards to
win, whereas KK just needs to
hold up
grizadoja: I'm just astounded he's
calling us idiots!
BigMac1082: whats a level
puppy?
BigMac1082: where can i read
about it?
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Old 10-22-2007, 08:08 PM
MoP_86 MoP_86 is offline
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Default Re: A beat, a question, and a level

I 4-bet pre, some villains fold.... as played villain would be making a mistake if he folded
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Old 10-22-2007, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: A beat, a question, and a level

I was there, and he can't fold QQ ever there after putting 1/3 of his stack in when you can have some smaller pairs and some draws.
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Old 10-22-2007, 08:10 PM
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Default Re: A beat, a question, and a level

[ QUOTE ]

BigMac1082: whats a level
puppy?
BigMac1082: where can i read
about it?

[/ QUOTE ]

Also I left before you said this, but this is a level:



So is this:



Edit - I guess images don't work anymore.
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