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Old 10-22-2007, 11:49 AM
RapidEvolution RapidEvolution is offline
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Default 25NL KK vs reg. I feel like I butchered this

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($22.30)
MP2 ($5.50)
CO ($13.70)
Button ($11.65)
Hero ($30.55)
BB ($8.90)
UTG ($28.35)
UTG+1 ($22.15)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $1.25, MP1 calls $1.25, Button folds.

Flop: ($5) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, UTG calls $3, MP1 folds.

Turn: ($11) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $3</font>, Hero calls $3.

River: ($17) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $15</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $31
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:55 AM
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Default Re: 25NL KK vs reg. I feel like I butchered this

i think you played it ok, i might c/c river to get to showdown but sometimes i just c/f river, sorta player dependent. i definitely call turn just because you're going to get called by jacks who will bet the turn.
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Old 10-22-2007, 12:04 PM
Specialwon Specialwon is offline
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Default Re: 25NL KK vs reg. I feel like I butchered this

I don't think it's terrible, but the hand shows just how difficult playing KK can be when everything is against you.

I woould raise to 2 or 2.50 preflop, with a close eye on UTG who may may be slowplaying. You are going to be OOP and you need to know where you stand, ideally with just one opponent. As played a lot of weird hands will come along just for the fun of it, including Ax which is the last thing you want.

On that flop I might be tempted to try a c/raise, that way at least you have some idea of where you are. If he were to bet 3, I would then raise to maybe 9 and then just shut down if he calls or raises.

Otherwise not too bad, the betfold at the end is fine, I just think you needed to put the hand to that kind of test sooner.
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Old 10-22-2007, 12:11 PM
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Default Re: 25NL KK vs reg. I feel like I butchered this

I was seriously considering a c/r on the turn after the weak bet, and looking back I think that might have been a better line. :/
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:00 PM
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Default Re: 25NL KK vs reg. I feel like I butchered this

Other thoughts?
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:10 PM
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Default Re: 25NL KK vs reg. I feel like I butchered this

I like the call on that turn getting 4.66:1. I don't think there's much point in c/r, an ace or smaller set turned fh will always call and everything else folds. you want him to try this again with another small bet on the river, or let you both check it down for a free showdown
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Old 10-23-2007, 01:57 AM
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Default Re: 25NL KK vs reg. I feel like I butchered this

c/c the river
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:07 AM
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Default Re: 25NL KK vs reg. I feel like I butchered this

Raise to $1.75 preflop, 3 limpers, etc.. I don't even like betting the flop. You're turning KK into a bluff. c/r the turn is beyond bad. c/c river, probably c/f. usually a regular is only value betting you here and do you think he's value betting a J or has QQ?
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:29 AM
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Default Re: 25NL KK vs reg. I feel like I butchered this

You're not getting any value out of a cbet here, so just check. Any sort of c/r seems gross to me. If you don't think he's betting an ace, c/c river.
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Old 10-23-2007, 09:15 AM
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Default Re: 25NL KK vs reg. I feel like I butchered this

c/c the river..
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