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Old 10-20-2007, 03:43 AM
Nielsio Nielsio is offline
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Default FT200 Overpair on dry board gets donked into a bunch of times

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $103.65
BB: $410.85
UTG: $305.05
MP: $226.60
Hero (CO): $211.40
BTN: $98.95

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG calls $2, MP folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $8, UTG calls $8

Flop: ($31) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $14</font>, UTG calls $14, Hero calls $14

Turn: ($73) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $36</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls $36

River: ($145) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $82</font>, Hero ..?


UTG is TAG.

BB is 24/4/2/189, 1% 3-bet.

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Notes
leads with trips 3-w sb, raised pot
limps KJo otb behind
wtf shoves turn with KJ on J32rb as NOT the pfr ip, when it looks like theyre getting it in anyway
lrr utg....

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How often are we getting valuetowned? Do we fold, call or shove the river?
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Old 10-20-2007, 03:47 AM
Fat Nicky Fat Nicky is offline
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Default Re: FT200 Overpair on dry board gets donked into a bunch of times

as played i'd just call the river.

i don't mind your line as the board is pretty dry.
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Old 10-20-2007, 03:53 AM
Trikkur Trikkur is offline
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Default Re: FT200 Overpair on dry board gets donked into a bunch of times

I'm normally calling here, but with your note about him leading w/ trips makes me think different...

No, I still call.
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Old 10-20-2007, 03:59 AM
Jub. Jub. is offline
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Default Re: FT200 Overpair on dry board gets donked into a bunch of times

I call here, seems to be a boring/random line here but is hard to put him on anything huge here I think
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Old 10-20-2007, 04:22 AM
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Default Re: FT200 Overpair on dry board gets donked into a bunch of times

gotta call river getting almost 3:1. nh.
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Old 10-20-2007, 04:24 AM
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Default Re: FT200 Overpair on dry board gets donked into a bunch of times

call, though I prefer a raise after his weak flop lead.
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Old 10-20-2007, 05:11 AM
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Default Re: FT200 Overpair on dry board gets donked into a bunch of times

why didnt u raise the flop, these guys never fold and were ahead very often

not getting it all in by the turn is a mistake in my opinion- villain has an overpair alot and never folds here
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Old 10-20-2007, 06:11 AM
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Default Re: FT200 Overpair on dry board gets donked into a bunch of times

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call, though I prefer a raise after his weak flop lead.

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raising the flop is total spew on a dry board like this one

on a wet board i´m raising this flop bet all day long though...
I call the river but imo we are getting valuetowned here quite a lot. Raising the river for value seems retarded
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Old 10-20-2007, 07:07 AM
jc1418 jc1418 is offline
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Default Re: FT200 Overpair on dry board gets donked into a bunch of times

maybe im way off here but the flop looks like a very clear raise b/c its dry. I do not think this is a weak lead either, it is very strong and most likely an over pair. I don't understand the responses in this thread. Villain here has JJ / QQ alot, he cold called from teh bb and leads the flop for 1/2 psb, not raising is losing alot of value here
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Old 10-20-2007, 07:12 AM
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Default Re: FT200 Overpair on dry board gets donked into a bunch of times

this is fine. call river.
raising this flop is bad against this player when his range is sooo polarized.
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