[50NL] QQ ... line check

[kenadams]

SB is 26/21/13.5 (67 hands)
I hadn't seen him 3-bet before, which is why I smooth called (does anyone 4-bet because it's a button/blinds battle?). At the flop, I was suspicious as to why he didn't c-bet but choose to check instead as he'd been pretty aggressive overall up to this point. I thought I was WA/WB at this point (could be TT/KK/AA). Would anyone bet there and why?


Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $73.50
BTN: $20.69
SB: $179.18
Hero (BB): $55.06

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $6</font>, Hero calls $5.50, BTN calls $4.25

Flop: ($18) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($18) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $14</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $49.06 and is All-In</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $35.06

River: ($116.12) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

[vixticator]

Assume c/r on flop failed. This is a 3bet pot, I am not worried about flushes. And you have a lot of outs against AhKh. Push, nice hand.

[Hail Eris]

Bet the flop for sure. This guy is never checking it with anything that beats you.

[bazooka87]

I'm betting this flop almost always, the only hand that beats you that he checks is probably a set of tens and is going lol i srowpray goot

[Supwithbates]

Flop check is great, pot is already big and this is a perfect spot for deception. Yes, you risk an A or K hitting turn and having to c/f, but I think controlling the pot here is best

[Hail Eris]

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Flop check is great, pot is already big and this is a perfect spot for deception. Yes, you risk an A or K hitting turn and having to c/f, but I think controlling the pot here is best

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What hands is a "26/21/13.5" checking on this flop after 3betting PF that we're trying to play pot control against? Shouldn't we be betting to extract from BTN, whose range is a lot hazier and who can easily be drawing on this board?

[kenadams]

Well what happened is that SB turned over KJo for the turned straight, so actually he was the one drawing on the flop. Initially the fact that he 3-bet KJo made me sick to my stomach and felt that if there was any justice in poker I would have boated up on the river. More I thought about it though was that his 3-betting raise might have been a little wider than usual as he probably assumed I didn't have a hand as the BB and the button might be stealing.

With the drawy texture of the flop I think I should have bet it a good amount and call any shove (if I call the shove I'm doing it because I'm priced in, but I expect to be behind).

Or I could just do it off as a ridiculous cooler.

[traz]

I still 4bet preflop, and if I'm calling I"m definitely not checking this flop with 2 other people in the pot.