2 Hands NL100 against TAG

[ReadOnYou]

both vs the same player: 26 vpip 9.6 pfr 2.0 AF 22wts 22 ATS

Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $92
BTN: $124.20
SB: $96.53
Hero (BB): $98.50
UTG: $57.05

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $4</font>, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($8) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $6</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $18</font>, SB calls $12

Turn: ($44) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $24</font>, Hero calls $24

River: ($92) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $50.53 and is All-In</font>, Hero folds

Results: $92 Pot
SB mucked and WON $140.53 (+$94.53 NET)


Question: Call flop / raise flop? I do not expect him to 2nd barrel turn w/o a hand so I do not want to give a freecard. This is why I raise flop. Turnplay ok ?



2nd Hand, same opponent, few hands later.



Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $101
SB: $104.20
BB: $156.24
Hero (UTG): $99.50
CO: $84.75

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, 3 folds, BB calls $3

Flop: ($8.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $14</font>, Hero calls $8

Turn: ($36.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($36.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $14</font>, Hero calls $14

Results: $64.50 Pot ($2 Rake)
BB showed XXX and WON $62.50 (+$30.50 NET)
Hero mucked J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Jacks) and LOST (-$32 NET)

Flop / Turn / River ?


thanks~

[optionsguy]

the flop raise in hand 1 is awful especially against a tight opponent. i prefer calling and re-evaluate the turn, where i'd fold if he bets again. definitely fold river though.

i think a fold in hand 2 isn't terrible but we are getting 3.5/1 so i'd probably call too.

[Messiahkid]

Hand 1: I 3bet pre here alot w/ position on these types of opponents. As played, I think turn call and river fold are ok.

Hand 2: With such a light flop raise he has a strong hand (flopped straight or set) and every variation of the straight got there by the river, should be a pretty standard fold.

[ReadOnYou]

ok thanks!
@optionsguy: why do you think the flop raise in hand 1 is bad ?

I think im ahead on this flop most of the times he will c-bet most of these flops with hands im ahead of since its sb vs bb and I want to take it down right there, not letting him see the turncard.

[optionsguy]

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ok thanks!
@optionsguy: why do you think the flop raise in hand 1 is bad ?

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because if he 3 bets you pretty much have to fold and he could 3 bet with as little as AK but much more likely he has a set of Js or an overpair. either way, once he calls your flop raise it's pretty much shut down time for me.

[xeanatic]

hand 1:
call flop in hand 1, a raise will only be called by stronger hands. If villian bets again strong on turn I prefer a fold here.

Hand 2: I can imagine calling the flop but would have to fold to that river valuebet. Everything got there.

[nazahl]

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If villian bets again strong on turn I prefer a fold here.


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yeah, u dont wanna be folding tpgk in a blind battle against a tag on the turn. make a decision on the river

[1gotth3nuts]

you don't want to raise the flop because it gets you into *tough* spots like ur in now. just flat the flop and see what he does on turn. usually here i flat flop, flat turn if he bets, and then decide wehther or not to vbet river. if he checks to u on turn u can bet 2/3 or something.